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Re: Serve Videos Instead of GIFs

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post #61

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boycott iOS? good luck...

No, boycott Safari. Just like the successful IE boycott on Windows.

There is no other rendering engine on iOS. You can’t “boycott Safari” on iOS in any meaningful way. WebKit is used by all browsers on iOS.

Re: Serve Videos Instead of GIFs

#152

I already said that before and I'll do it again: it won't work until we make videos act like gifs, which act like images. The video per se won't loop if I save it in my computer or phone. I can't drag and drop, right click, long tap. To have anything replacing gif you need THE EXACT SAME BEHAVIOUR, EVERYWHERE. It doesn't matter for the consumer whose fault it is: encoding, the app, how the file is created. The user u…

> The video per se won't loop if I save it in my computer or phone it does for me with VLC (it is dependent on your player if you save it to your computer) But yeah, I can't right click on a video to save it. Got to use youtube-dl for that... > THE EXACT SAME BEHAVIOUR, EVERYWHERE. no sound?

> no sound?

No sound by default depending on user settings would actually be progress in my opinion. But considering half the online video players break in some way as soon as I disable autoplay in the browser I don't think this will be achievable before the end of the century.

Re: Serve Videos Instead of GIFs

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post #103

I already said that before and I'll do it again: it won't work until we make videos act like gifs, which act like images. The video per se won't loop if I save it in my computer or phone. I can't drag and drop, right click, long tap. To have anything replacing gif you need THE EXACT SAME BEHAVIOUR, EVERYWHERE. It doesn't matter for the consumer whose fault it is: encoding, the app, how the file is created. The user u…

I think there's a chance this can happen when AV1 starts to gain adoption. Webp had a chance - you can have well encoded, looping video in a .webp container that operates exactly like an image. The issue was lack of adoption - it never took hold due to Apple not adopting it in their ecosystem. AV1 has support from every major player in tech, and .avif images support gif functionality just fine. Until that happens tho…

Yes I think the fact that GitHub doesn't support videos at all shows how far away a gif-free world is.

Re: Serve Videos Instead of GIFs

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post #24

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Gifs (and videos that people call gifs) wouldn’t be what they are today if it weren’t for their ease of copying/saving and pasting/uploading to somewhere else, which you could similarly call an application feature. So this application issue with video (as implemented in this article) is almost certainly what will stop gifs from being replaced.

But it's being done above the format level entirely. Every browser that can decode video has a "Copy Video URL" context menu item. It's just that the websites hide it to discourage hotlinking

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Re: Serve Videos Instead of GIFs

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That’s really an application issue, but god damn is it an annoying one.

No, its a os one. windows, and most other os's, allow copy and pasting images as image data in the clipboard, but can only handle video links , there is no way to natively copy and paste the video contents.

> windows, and most other os's, allow copy and pasting images as image data in the clipboard

OSX has pasteboard types for png and tiff, yet that doesn't preclude copy/pasting JPEG or SVG. So no it's probably not "a OS one".

Re: Serve Videos Instead of GIFs

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The OP calls out a thoughtfully-designed, open source, screen recording software, Kap. [0] Even though Kap does not have annotation tools, I think it compares well with software recently featured on the front page of HN. [1] [0] https://getkap.co [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22815227

Zappy, an offline screen capture tool requires an online account to use. The CEO's answer is "we wanted to make it available quickly." not sure why that means I need an account.

Re: Serve Videos Instead of GIFs

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post #5

Isn't this exactly what animated WebP [1] is supposed to address? [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebP#Animation

Animated WebP has poor compression. It is based on WebM video, but it dropped most features that make videos small (but still kept the now-obsolete VP8 encoding, and added a second codec internally, which makes WebP decoding complex compared to GIF).
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