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I hired a team of shoppers to find out how businesses were opening in Dallas

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Re: I hired a team of shoppers to find out how businesses were opening in Dallas

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Do you have any data supporting this? I'd like to think I could be an accurate judge of this myself, but given that my consumption of media is extremely biased by my location and languages of literacy, I don't think my anecdotal data is worth anything.

Consider the situation in Michigan. Has anything like that happened in any other country?

I have seen demonstrations in other countries reported on various news outlets

Re: I hired a team of shoppers to find out how businesses were opening in Dallas

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Just anecdata about ~Houston but: - At ~7:00am Sunday, May 3, I only saw one "customer" not wearing a mask at a grocery store inside the inner loop. (Quotes because this person got caught trying to walk out the front door with a 40 of something while I was still waiting outside for a cart; not inclined to count them.) All employees that I saw were masked, though I did see one pull their mask down under their chin for…

I live in the heights but I haven't been to the grocery store since March. I wonder if the distinction is grocery store vs corner store/bar/restaurant. I imagine cautious poeple are much more likely to go to the grocery store than to a corner store/bar/restaurant.

Yes--it seems quite possible that the venue (and times of day) are strongly selecting for different patrons, which is a big part of why I hesitate to blame distance-from-downtown or wonder whether people have relaxed a lot in a week. But the latter wouldn't shock me, either.

Re: I hired a team of shoppers to find out how businesses were opening in Dallas

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Do you have any data supporting this? I'd like to think I could be an accurate judge of this myself, but given that my consumption of media is extremely biased by my location and languages of literacy, I don't think my anecdotal data is worth anything.

Consider the situation in Michigan. Has anything like that happened in any other country?

I was talking about online discussions (e.g., comments on Blog Maverick, etc). Australians have been very supportive on the whole of measures here, but I've still seen some absolutely baffling discussions online that descend into immediate, heated disputes.

We had one notable protest in Australia in which a few were arrested and a policeman injured, but no, people here don't walk around showing off guns thankfully.

Re: I hired a team of shoppers to find out how businesses were opening in Dallas

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I'm not sure what the stock market doing well has to do with whatever things are going badly? The stock market doing well would be a rare glimmer of hope in a sea of trouble, wouldn't it be?

The concern is that it may have become disconnected from reality, and eventually crash hard. The Dow dropped into the 7,000s in the 2009 recession. I don't see any reason to believe the current recession will be milder.

Who cares? As long as nominal GDP holds steady, the stock market can do what it wants.

See eg Black Monday in 1987 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987)

The stock market tanked 22.6% in one day. Of course, some traders and speculators got themselves into trouble, but the economy was fine and happily continued its expansion.

Re: I hired a team of shoppers to find out how businesses were opening in Dallas

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I'm not sure they would be anywhere near full occupancy even without government restriction. I can imagine a significant portion of the population self-limiting to essential activities only, regardless of the level of government restrictions.

if that was true- why bother with regulation in the first place?

In addition to what smileysteve said, the more important reason is: people like their politicians to Do Things.

Re: I hired a team of shoppers to find out how businesses were opening in Dallas

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You seem misinformed. https://www.gosh.nhs.uk/news/coronavirus-covid-19-informatio... Please stop with all the FUD and actually read up on what we know.

Not really seeing anything in this link that has any bearing on what I said in my post.

We know that COVID-19 is less dangerous, statistically, for children than it is for other populations. By a large degree.

Re: I hired a team of shoppers to find out how businesses were opening in Dallas

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Not really seeing anything in this link that has any bearing on what I said in my post.

We know that COVID-19 is less dangerous, statistically, for children than it is for other populations. By a large degree.

Okay, but I wasn’t saying COVID isn’t more dangerous for children statistically. I said you are misusing the idea of statistical significance and and are overconfident about the long term effects of a new disease.
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