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Our Self-Isolating Future: How working from home could reshape society

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Re: Our Self-Isolating Future: How working from home could reshape society

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Post by blaser-waffle »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #5

Outside of young, childless tech workers, this sudden remote work experiment is not going well for most people I know. This isn’t the controlled trial of remote work that these think pieces suggest. Instead, everyone is forcefully stuck at home without time to prepare. Parents are juggling childcare with getting work done, while fighting an uphill battle against IT systems that weren’t prepared for everyone going WFH…

> Even the remote teams I know are struggling to get work done in the middle of this 24-hour news cycle of virus news and political battles about how to address it.

+1 for this. I'm 100% remote, as are many members of my org, and we're struggling to deal with the big changes happening. Webex and Zoom occasionally drop audio or just straight up drop people.

Also can't underestimate the kids thing. For example, my boss has 8 year olds who LOVE to sing as loudly as possible -- ask me how I know :)

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Post by blaser-waffle »

mirimir wrote: post #127
arthurjj wrote: post #106

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I've been thinking about this lately since I'm rereading it while my WFH with a 5 year old who needs to be educated. Being completely raised by the book as Nell is wasn't what the book was intended for either by it's creator, Hackworth, or the patron, Finkle-McGraw. It was instead intended as a supplement for the failings of traditional education. For small kids all of the online options are only supplements to the i…

Miranda played a much larger role in Nell's education than merely acting a role in the Primer.

Yeah wasn't there a whole subplot where she was super attached to the kid and tried to find and adopt her?

Re: Our Self-Isolating Future: How working from home could reshape society

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Post by blaser-waffle »

overcast wrote: post #16
Accacin wrote: post #4

I'm lucky enough to be able to work from home, and I'm having mixed feelings about it. As usual, there are pros and cons to everything. Pros: - Able to be at home all day, feel I have more flexibility. Cons: - I miss cycling to work. - I miss getting out the house - I miss chatting to colleagues - I miss lots of indirect help from other developers. I might feel differently if I had to drive to work, as I hated that.…

What's stopping you from getting out of the house? Cycle before work, and after work.

Right now? The government. Non-essential travel and outdoor activities are banned.

If I lived in a rural area I'd probably be outside working on a new deck or garden, but I live in a city and I'm stuck in an apartment.

Re: Our Self-Isolating Future: How working from home could reshape society

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Post by Bubbadoo »

Working from home is a godsend! Yes, now's not the time for the litmus test but for most people, their commute is the most stressful time of the day, at least under normal circumstances. We are not working under normal circumstances at this time but as a net result, the Earth's air is becoming cleaner, we're burning tons less fossil fuel and although I understand the demands of child-rearing while trying to be productive, we are getting to spend more time with our families.

Don't allow the stress of the situation to color your judgement of work from home. It is a good thing in our modern time.

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Post by projektfu »

Barrin92 wrote: post #136
projektfu wrote: post #66

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It sort of makes you wonder where we went wrong. Other social forms had children integrated into the things adults do.

>It sort of makes you wonder where we went wrong when we moved from communal intergenerational lifestyles to the insular nuclear family. David brooks wrote a great piece about it. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-nuc...

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced that you take a brain that is adapted to tribes and you force it into other structures and it stops working so well.

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Post by mirimir »

blaser-waffle wrote: post #152
mirimir wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Miranda played a much larger role in Nell's education than merely acting a role in the Primer.

Yeah wasn't there a whole subplot where she was super attached to the kid and tried to find and adopt her?

Right, but then she got absorbed into the Drummers.

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Post by taneq »

avip wrote: post #84
taneq wrote: post #45

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No sane person actually works from home with their young kids present, at least not in any real job. Until schools have their remote classes sorted out with actual teachers giving actual attention to students over video, nobody's going to be getting any quality work done.

It is not possible to give "actual attention to students over video". There really is no such thing. Remote teaching does not, can not, and should not work for young kids. It's not a university. (source: life)

I don't know whose young kids you're testing on (and they're all different so you're right for some of them!) but all the ones I've met are glued to a screen at every opportunity. They love video calls and talking on the phone and interacting with people via screen.

Re: Our Self-Isolating Future: How working from home could reshape society

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Post by CuriousCosmic »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #147
CuriousCosmic wrote: post #79

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Something to note is that depending on where you live, people can still go outside. They just need to stay away from people. If you live in a suburban or rural environment odds are there are at least walking paths nearby. Go on a walk, run, or bike ride. Nothing in those activities requires interacting with others as long as you keep a mind to keep your distance and they do wonders for keeping the cabin fever at bay.…

In France at least, the lockdown already stipulates no bike riding. And even if one goes out for a walk or jog, one cannot go more than 1 km from one's home. This situation is expected to last many weeks more. Cabin fever is a real concern.

That's a fair point. I wasn't aware that any state had placed those kinds of restrictions but I suppose it is reasonable when in a densely populated area. I could however see this kind of restriction getting unreasonable and unenforceable very quickly.
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