Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

Post by spectramax » Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 2:19 AM UTC

crooked-v wrote: post #143

spectramax wrote: post #82

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Truth. They're using drones to following people and ask them to go back into their homes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPw6xjwAlHc With complete lack of freedom and privacy, you can achieve a lot. They're doing better than any western country would: https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-china-slowed-coronavirus-lo...

The drones seem if anything quite a lot less privacy-intruding than other possible measures, assuming they're just wandering around looking for people without masks. It would be embarrassing to be on the receiving end but with no real lasting effect or privacy loss, which is ultimately a pretty ideal result on a societal level.

Post by jessaustin » Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 2:21 AM UTC

_gccu wrote: post #136

And what if the mask itself is already tainted with the virus? Wouldn't you want to verify that it's actually free of the virus in the first place? It is coming from China.

Post by mythrwy » Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 2:23 AM UTC

robomartin wrote: post #139

ryandrake wrote: post #130

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Exactly. At this point only irredeemable bureaucrats care whether a face mask meets ISO-12345 compliance or a test kit has documents stamped by the right government Deputy Inspector of Inspectors. Bring the things in and worry about the right official seals of approval later.

That's insane. If the untraceable masks only block particles larger than 1 micron rather than 0.3 microns, they are useless. If instead of being true N95 they are N80, they are deadly junk. This isn't about bureaucracy, this is about engineering and science. Junk is junk, and it can kill you when you assume you are being protected (or protecting others) and you are not because they lied to you.

Post by adventured » Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 2:23 AM UTC

mehrdadn wrote: post #115

woofie11 wrote: post #81

Thank you. That's what I gotta say. Thank you. I hate all the cynics and conspiracy theories here. It's a generous move, and deeply appreciated. Jack didn't spend that much money to be a douchebag. He spent it because this will save countless lives.

Yeah, honestly. Even as someone who can be cynical about things, I still think this is very much kind and appreciated. Meanwhile I know others who say it's political and means pretty much nothing... I just don't know how to reply.

Post by jessaustin » Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 2:24 AM UTC

coenhyde wrote: post #154

robomartin wrote: post #145

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Bullshit squared. If the tests give you false results you are going to OVERWHELM the medical system with people who should have tested negative. As it is our tests only have about 1% false positive rate and tests being used in other parts of the world seem to be in the 3% range. Please, don't have these crazy ideas if you don't know what you are talking about. You clearly don't. A bad test isn't a substitute for a go…

We're not talking about cancer tests here. We're in a pandemic. The value we would get out of 500k tests for covid-19 with a 3% error rate is far superior to 500 tests with an error rate of 1%. Give me the 500k tests please!