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Plenty of heartless comments in this thread. It's a shame really. Rest In Peace, Jack.

I don't have a strong opinion on Welch, but a) he fired lots of people from GE, and b) introduced stack ranking to the world, which got lots more people fired. Whether or not he was good for GE, he was a heartless man. Of course he gets a heartless response.

It may be expected, but just remember that we all have power to break negative cycles.

Re: Jack Welch has died

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post #125

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It looks like this became the basis of American economy. And you can't loose your job, because you'll miss your mortgage or education payments and loose your health care. So you must do anything your employer tell you to do.

> because you'll miss your mortgage or education payments and loose your health care. This is why the sensible thing to do is to save up a cushion of 6 months. You can continue with your employer health care with COBRA for 6 months or a year.

You‘re saying this as if it were realistic for the majority of people to save up a cushion of 6 months in a reasonable time frame (or ever).

Re: Jack Welch has died

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post #30

Plenty of heartless comments in this thread. It's a shame really. Rest In Peace, Jack.

I don't have a strong opinion on Welch, but a) he fired lots of people from GE, and b) introduced stack ranking to the world, which got lots more people fired. Whether or not he was good for GE, he was a heartless man. Of course he gets a heartless response.

Yeah bullshit. Look at the reception Fidel Castro got: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13041886

Anyone conservative you people dance on their grave.

Anyone socialist, including brutal dictators, you praise them.

It's as simple as that. I can find you many examples of this. Common theme between them all is their political ideology.

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That was more because of his restructuring in the early 90s. "As with a neutron bomb, the buildings are still standing but the people are gone." He didn't seem to understand GE's broad products businesses but did understand finance, so he continuously closed those operations.

> He didn't seem to understand GE's broad products businesses but did understand finance, so he continuously closed those operations. Uh...no. He was a trained chemical engineer, and understood products, manufacturing, and operations perfectly well. In his own words, here's why he emphasized finance: "My gut told me that compared to the industrial operations I did know, this business [GE Capital] seemed an easy way t…

"[GE Capital] seemed an easy way to make money...This thing looked like a 'gold mine' to me."

A good MBA finance curriculum might kick off with the Modigliani-Miller theorem (M&M), which basically says:

1. Theoretically, you can't create value through your mix of financing. It doesn't matter whether you use 100% equity, 100% debt, or 50/50, your mix of financing won't create value (unlike good R&D for example).

2. #1 above is predicated on the absence of tax incentives, bankruptcy costs, agency costs, and asymmetric information, and the market being efficient.

The creators of M&M believed that the assumptions in #2 are mostly false most of the time. The beauty of the theory is in the assumptions themselves. Prescriptively, it basically says that your mix of financing matters only insofar as the assumptions in #2 are false for your project at your company in your country. If you start a division like GE Finance, and you start using complicated financial derivatives, you have several things to prove. You have to show which M&M assumptions are false for your company, to what degree they are false, that your suggested method of financing will take advantage of the M&M violations, and that the magnitude of financing matches the magnitude of M&M assumption violation (this last bit is important, GE really went hog wild with derivatives in a way that was completely not justified). GE Capital never passed the M&M sniff test.

Re: Jack Welch has died

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I think the core idea makes sense, at least intuitively. Remove the worst performers. Make room for better people. The issue is that you will always have "worst performers". There needs to be a minimally acceptable performance level. And you also need enough slack so that the churn isn't affecting overall performance.

Removing the worst performers is the issue, as you somewhat suggest. You don't want to remove the worst performers. You want to remove those don't do their jobs or don't fit in the company. This is very different.

It is, but I was offering a suggestion as to why the concept is popular.

It passes the "gut check". It "feels right".

And that's because it's vaguely in the right direction of a good idea.

Re: Jack Welch has died

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post #125

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It looks like this became the basis of American economy. And you can't loose your job, because you'll miss your mortgage or education payments and loose your health care. So you must do anything your employer tell you to do.

> because you'll miss your mortgage or education payments and loose your health care. This is why the sensible thing to do is to save up a cushion of 6 months. You can continue with your employer health care with COBRA for 6 months or a year.

Why would you need COBRA? You can go to healthcare.gov and buy health insurance that is probably as good or better than what most employers offer. And you wouldn’t have to pay for months you didn’t need healthcare.

Re: Jack Welch has died

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Jack Welch, head of GE Plastics that polluted Pittsfield MA and the Connecticut River, acceeded to the throne of once-solid General Electric. Through his gentle ministrations he turned the company into a graveyard, driving Schenectady, NY from a middle class heaven into a rust-encrusted hellhole. Jack's financial acumen provided for monotonically increasing stock prices through his tenure. He did this through financial manipulation that would have landed lesser mortals in jail for securities fraud. Upon the sale of the General Electric Reinsurance (GE Re) to Swiss Re, Jack's fraud was uncovered to the tune of $19.2BB. This, however, didn't affect St. Jack, who had moved on and left Jeff Immelt to hold the bag. In the financial crisis of 2008, GE Capital's "investments" into derivatives imploded and GE was within one day of failing to meet payroll and default on many obligations. Jack's good friend, Warren Buffet, however, came along with $5BB in cash and saved the company for a slight premium.

Jack was known as a sharp negotiator and a master of project management and contracts. His marriage failed one month after his wife of many years became "vested" in the pre-nuptial agreement. Suzie Welch was unavailable for comment at the time of publication. Welch demanded full commitment and high levels of performance from his employees. He trained all in the religion of Six Sigma, all the better to remove "waste" and "unnecessary costs" from GE products. He also trained all managers in "ethics" as a means for them to know and understand the limits of ethical behaviour, to know where the gray zone was in relation to those limits, and then to be able to "cluelessly" operate beyond the gray zone limits.

He is survived by countless GE customers who cheer the ongoing demise of the company, by arrogant former employees and managers who remain unemployed due to their catchphrase "this is how we did it at GE", and by many retirees doomed to eat catfood since their no-decision investment in GE stock has left them in penury.

Re: Jack Welch has died

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post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like this became the basis of American economy. And you can't loose your job, because you'll miss your mortgage or education payments and loose your health care. So you must do anything your employer tell you to do.

> because you'll miss your mortgage or education payments and loose your health care. This is why the sensible thing to do is to save up a cushion of 6 months. You can continue with your employer health care with COBRA for 6 months or a year.

I feel desperately sorry for Americans when it comes to health care.

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Steve Ballmer revered Jack Welch's rank-and-yank management style. During the 2000s and early 2010s Microsoft's stack-rank reviews were infamous for the internal politics created. Didn't matter if you had a full team of top-tier engineers, the bottom 15% WAS going to get managed out. Savvy managers would hire low-tier performers to protect the productive ones. That's the only lens through which I have to view Mr. Wel…

I find Netflix's model works better: allocating resources by visibility of a team. Roughly speaking, a manager gets a chunk of budget from her manager, and she can decide how big a package she gives to each of her team members. The more important a team becomes, the more budget the team gets. The more visible a person becomes to her manager, the more likely this person will get larger package. This comes with the fol…

I may not agree completely with Netflix' philosophy but I love that it has "tests", like "would you fight for a person to stay? if not, let her go" https://jobs.netflix.com/culture
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