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Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by usrusr »

Pfhreak wrote: post #50
tomtheelder wrote: post #26

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I think this is at least partly a generational thing. Kids and teenagers seem to be much more willing than my peers to play demanding games on mobile, and to play them in public. It sort of makes sense, since anyone my age or older didn't _really_ have access to serious mobile games growing up.

Hey! My gameboy was a screen with 2 bits of color depth! What's not serious about that? :D

Good point actually, but that almost (?) two decades wide gap between mainstream gameboy mobile playing and the iPhone was quite an opportunity to drop the habit. Well, there was Nokia snake.

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Post by asudosandwich »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #27
Pfhreak wrote: post #6

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> FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount of technology is going to change that because the main barrier is you won't want to play that game on your morning commute with a bunch of people around you, noise, and being unable to immerse yourself (even for reasons as simple as needing to remember to get off at your stop). PUBG and Fortnite are both…

I was going to say the same thing except with Call of Duty as my example. Having never played an FPS on my phone, I had to download Call of Duty to see how it worked, being a heavy kb+m FPS player in my youth. Played a dozen or so rounds in a couple weeks. It worked surprisingly well with plenty of skill gap between the players. A couple years ago I also tried a MOBA on my phone wondering how that could possibly work…

Civilization 6 is available in the App Store for iPhone and iPad. However, on my 2017 10.5” iPad Pro I find it uncomfortable to play beyond a short stretch (15-20 minutes) because the UI obscures a good part of the map (even fully collapsed) and panning the board is not smooth because of the frame rate. My hand, wrist, and arm tire quickly from all the swiping and panning too.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by Nextgrid »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #136
Nextgrid wrote: post #84

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Maybe it's because they haven't tried any better and so don't know how the constrained controls are limiting their gameplay? I see a lot of this in other fields. People will use a sub-standard workflow and think it's fine until they experience something better and at that point they realise how bad their previous workflow was.

That's probably true, but I think most people don't have desktop computers anymore. Most people buy laptops instead, and they don't use a mouse. Hence, most kids growing up won't really interact with desktop computers and mice anymore, and won't really get to see how different the experience could be. Not unless they happen to be at a friend's house, and that friend has a desktop computer with a mouse.

Even a console-style controller would be a huge upgrade from a touchscreen and those are still very common.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by mhh__ »

Pfhreak wrote: post #6
FooHentai wrote: post #3

>Cloud gaming means you will be able to take your game “everywhere” and avoid dreaded 20-minute updates before you can start playing. Doubt. In the same way that movies on PSP had this idea in mind but fell flat on it's face, games are strongly tied to the format and environment in which you consume them. FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount o…

> FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount of technology is going to change that because the main barrier is you won't want to play that game on your morning commute with a bunch of people around you, noise, and being unable to immerse yourself (even for reasons as simple as needing to remember to get off at your stop). PUBG and Fortnite are both…

PUBG mobile is (or was? haven't played in a while) a work of art - especially compared to it's PC older brother. Runs at a solid FPS, amazing gunplay for a mobile game while still capturing the essence of the PC game. Slightly embarrassing for PUBG PC to be frank.

But... both technically and culturally it's not the same as a PC shooter. Similar to comparing HALO with a game like Counter Strike I guess - one summer I was bored and shot 2500-3000ish heads (Aim Botz) in one sitting but I can't imagine "practicing" PUBG mobile in a similar way.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by mhh__ »

apazzolini wrote: post #73
dudus wrote: post #45

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More PoPs and fiber. Both which are already much more ubiquitous than a few years ago and fast expanding. Plus you don't need to reach everyone for a successful product. Just a critical mass

I (and many, many others) notice lag in games with v-sync turned on vs off, and we're talking about single digit milliseconds there. It's possible that Stadia might be "good enough" for casual gaming (and granted, that's a very large market segment), but I don't think it will ever be good enough for anyone who is sensitive to latency.

I remember Arma 3 (A pretty serious MilSim game) having 100ms+ input lag at one point so there is definitely room to play with but I don't think it's ever going to be good enough for stereotype PC games - equally, I don't think they're the target market.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

Aaronstotle wrote: post #71
Darkphibre wrote: post #33

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Reminds me of an op-ed from 1900 about how books were destroying the youth, for they never looked up at the world around them. :)

I think that the major difference is a lot of games/apps are tailor made to produce dopamine/cause addiction. While a good book _can_ be addicting, it's not inherently stimulating.

Also, you always eventually reach the end of a book. In which case you have to take a break to find a new one, which you may or may not like as much.

This applies to basically every form of media prior to the internet—movies, TV shows, music albums, etc.

I personally prefer games that are one-and-done too, and this is partly why. I want to immerse myself in a virtual world for a little while and then move on with my life and/or find a brand new virtual world; I'm not looking for an endless rabbit hole.

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Post by mhh__ »

dublinben wrote: post #36
giancarlostoro wrote: post #28

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Oh right, console gamer problems. I guess cloud gaming will make them happy, I really hope it doesn't bleed over into PC gaming.

Isn't it already a meme that Steam seems to always require updates before you can play anything?

You can stop it doing that in the settings if you please.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by mhh__ »

Havoc wrote: post #75
FooHentai wrote: post #3

>Cloud gaming means you will be able to take your game “everywhere” and avoid dreaded 20-minute updates before you can start playing. Doubt. In the same way that movies on PSP had this idea in mind but fell flat on it's face, games are strongly tied to the format and environment in which you consume them. FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount o…

>FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute Fortnite on mobile says otherwise

Fortnite's not an FPS... More seriously, I think this is meant to imply a game like Quake or Counter Strike ("Skill based") rather than Fortnite - i.e. Fortnite has aspects unlike those other two games that cultivate different skills.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by MattRix »

mhh__ wrote: post #155
Pfhreak wrote: post #6

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> FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount of technology is going to change that because the main barrier is you won't want to play that game on your morning commute with a bunch of people around you, noise, and being unable to immerse yourself (even for reasons as simple as needing to remember to get off at your stop). PUBG and Fortnite are both…

PUBG mobile is (or was? haven't played in a while) a work of art - especially compared to it's PC older brother. Runs at a solid FPS, amazing gunplay for a mobile game while still capturing the essence of the PC game. Slightly embarrassing for PUBG PC to be frank. But... both technically and culturally it's not the same as a PC shooter. Similar to comparing HALO with a game like Counter Strike I guess - one summer I…

How is this not the same? I'm not seeing why you can't compare Halo with Counter-Strike. In Fortnite there actually are even mobile (iPad) players that put thousands of hours into the game and are better than 99% of PC players.
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