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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

haltcatchfire wrote: post #133
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #84

Here's my Firefox wishlist: - Open new windows more quickly. Firefox feels sluggish (on Mac) even though it isn't, simply because it opens new windows far more slowly than Safari or Chrome. - Use the platform native key store. I don't want my passwords stored unencrypted on disk. But I don't want to enter a separate master password either. I do want to use fingerprint/face unlock on mobile to reveal passwords. - Give…

I use this addon to get rid of the cookie banners: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu Firefox addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-a...

I'm extremely hesitant to give any extension automatic access to every single page I'm loading. I want Firefox to come with these things built in.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Vinnl »

thatcherc wrote: post #57
harikb wrote: post #35

What do people use for “Profiles”. I need ability to switch easily between profiles (different identities) without going to command line. I also don’t want to install a third party extension for that if possible

Firefox has a Container Tabs extension which does just this - the defaults are profiles for Work, Personal, Banking, and Social, and you can add more. You do have to install it but I think the extension is from Mozilla itself, so it's not exactly third-party. It's just features that are already in the nightly builds as I understand it [0]. Personally I've really enjoyed it so far! [0] - https://support.mozilla.org/en…

Additionally, the actual functionality is just built into Firefox; all the extension does is expose a UI to manage it.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by daxelrod »

hedora wrote: post #94
Twirrim wrote: post #40

"Firefox replaces annoying notification request pop-ups with a more delightful experience, by default for all users. The pop-ups no longer interrupt your browsing, in its place, a speech bubble will appear in the address bar when you interact with the site." That should pretty much kill off a lot of the notification request crap, especially if Chrome follows suit. I can envision the conversion rate massively falling…

Slack has started disabling unrelated features if you disallow notifications. For instance, you can’t add channels to the “ignore @here” list if notifications are off. I’m sure this’ll get worse over time. FF needs a “disable notifications, but lie to the website and say they’re enabled” button.

I've seen sites that refuse to show you their content at all until you've enabled notifications. I like this lying idea.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by megous »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #34

> Firefox replaces annoying notification request pop-ups with a more delightful experience, by default for all users. The pop-ups no longer interrupt your browsing, in its place, a speech bubble will appear in the address bar when you interact with the site. This is fantastic! I had finally figured out I could turn this off in settings a while ago, glad it's now a default. I get so annoyed by this, annoying indeed!

Well, it's delightfully stupid.

In a webapp where you present user a button to activate notifiactions, when the user clicks the button seemingly nothing happens in FF72 (user is focussed on a big enable notifiactions button in the web app and may not notice that some tiny gray icon wiggled a little in the address bar).

On a big screen a button in the middle of the screen is so far away from the address bar, that you don't see any change in the address bar at all in the peripheral vision.

So yeah, web apps that don't try to force the user to enable notifications are now punished for good behavior again.

EDIT: So it's not so stupid, see below.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by thekyle »

abcd_f wrote: post #48

Re: picture in picture - anyone else here think that this feature doesn't belong to a browser? It just seems so... erm... random, basically. Looks like something that was cloned from some other product and rather crudely shoehorned in. At the very least it should have been introduced after an update and given an option to opt-in to using it, rather than automatically enabling it without any notice.

I've been trying out the Firefox picture-in-picture feature for a few months now and its evolved into something I use every day.

I don't know whether it's right for a browser to add that feature rather than the OS, but Ubuntu doesn't have any plans to add similar functionality so I don't really care.

As far as making it opt-in I dont really understand your reasoning. If people want to use the feature then it's there, if not then they probably won't notice anything is even different. Do you feel similarly about things like reader mode?

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by andrewkdinh »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #151
haltcatchfire wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use this addon to get rid of the cookie banners: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu Firefox addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-a...

I'm extremely hesitant to give any extension automatic access to every single page I'm loading. I want Firefox to come with these things built in.

If you trust uBlock Origin, you can block cookie banners by adding https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/abp/ to uBlock Origin’s custom filter list

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by OGWhales »

yori wrote: post #5

After the recent missteps by Chrome (mangling the display of URLs), I decided to switch to Firefox and DuckDuckGo a few months ago and I was pleasantly surprised at how fast Firefox is these days than what I found it to be 10 years ago. While I still consider DuckDuckGo to be in the "not bad" category, Firefox is in the "seriously awesome" category now. If you have been away from Firefox for a while like me, give it…

Any tips for transitioning? I've seen people recommend various stuff like containers and other stuff but I never saved their recommendation as I was happy with chrome at the time.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by szatkus »

jvzr wrote: post #130
abcd_f wrote: post #48

Re: picture in picture - anyone else here think that this feature doesn't belong to a browser? It just seems so... erm... random, basically. Looks like something that was cloned from some other product and rather crudely shoehorned in. At the very least it should have been introduced after an update and given an option to opt-in to using it, rather than automatically enabling it without any notice.

I love it and use it multiple (25+) times per day. My only wish is that it kept the interface from whichever player the videos comes from (eg. YouTube's, Netflix's, etc., especially for subtitles & platform-specific controls like Speed)

That would be a tough one. There's no information which part of HTML is controls. Maybe they may hardcode this information for some popular players, but that would break as soon as for example Youtube decided to change the layout a bit.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by andrewkdinh »

mtm7 wrote: post #141

Firefox keeps getting better. I really want to switch. The only thing that’s holding me back is the design. It just doesn’t look as modern as Chrome or Brave. The back button is a different height than the search bar; the tab container doesn’t line up with the search from the left side of the window. And it has a weird mix of slightly-square and rounded buttons, which makes it feel like a second-class browser. I know…

If you’re interested in having Chrome’s look in Firefox, check out MaterialFox.

https://github.com/muckSponge/MaterialFox

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by zamadatix »

gdfasfklshg4 wrote: post #149
zamadatix wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is it's impossible to separate "this changed it sucks" from "this is actually bad" since the messages are always the same. E.g. in this case you didn't even bother explaining why the new way works worse for you you just said "it changed, I left! Make note!" and I mean that's fine if that's what you actually wanted them to make note of but no company with competition is just going to keep every workflow th…

The lesson is don't change for the sake of change.

If you think of a standard user:

- Do they really need to see* http:// or https:// if immediately to the left is the icon which indicates secure/insecure (which is more than just "protocol is https or not")?

- Do they really care to see* if they are at www.site.com or m.site.com or site.com or do they just want to know they are at site.com which they expect to be as they make their purchase or log in?

* noting that bookmarking, copying, or editing the URL operate on the full URL and this is just a visual change otherwise

And voila now the leftmost (first) text they read is not a bunch of jargon it's the thing people look at the URL for the most.

That you couldn't think of any reason tells me you didn't try not that you disagreed with the reasons and had an actual lesson to share about why. Again: "it changed, change bad" people impossible to distinguish from "it changed, actually bad".

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