ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar • Hacker News Board

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

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Post by twoflower9 » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 10:29 PM UTC

tuananh wrote: post #121

wstrange wrote: post #118

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> I'm pretty sure they do mine emails for their own ad targeting. They do not. See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603?hl=en "We will not scan or read your Gmail messages to show you ads."

> "We will not scan or read your Gmail messages to show you ads." that reads to me like ""We may do it for other purposes."

Whenever I book a flight google offers to set alarms and gives me don't forget your flight tomorrow notifications. They are obviously reading the email to achieve this.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

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Post by riddlemethat » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 12:32 AM UTC

supercommand wrote: post #136

riddlemethat wrote: post #129

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Fastmail doesn’t offer phone support for paid users. I have an account with them and spent months troubleshooting a carddav sync issue with my two Mac computers before giving up and switching contacts over to iCloud. Proton mail seems pretty hungry for business. I inquired for a paid plan and they follow up all the time with sales people who have unique email addresses.

Interesting maybe try a fresh contact import on your macs? I know about 20+ people who use IMacs iPhones and MacBooks with fastmail and have no syncing issues.

I used it for two years without issue.

Tried to export and reimport to no avail.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

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Post by martinbm » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 1:18 AM UTC

EduardoBautista wrote: post #130

ravenstine wrote: post #11

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Did you try this? https://protonmail.com/bridge/ Or did it not work for you?

I did. It’s slow. Also, it’s not available on iOS.

When did you last use the bridge? They released an update a month or so ago which has made it significantly faster to sync changes.

I do agree that it would be great to be able to use your own mail client on iOS. Not sure that will ever happen though.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

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Post by nirui » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 4:53 AM UTC

mdp wrote: post #29

EduardoBautista wrote: post #8

I recently left ProtonMail and went back to Fastmail. My reason was that they will never be able to fully support IMAP and now CalDAV because of the encryption they use. I grew to accept that email is not for secure messaging and my paranoia of "I'm being watched" just went away. If you need secure messaging, use something other than email.

I came to a similar conclusion. You should write every email as if it were public, because it's entirely likely that it will be. They can be forwarded, made public through legal discovery, or exposed in a data breach (eg. Sony/North Korea). Forget security for a second, imagining every email as public record will make you more considerate and less biased writer. And from a business perspective, email should be viewed…

> I came to a similar conclusion. You should write every email as if it were public, because it's entirely likely that it will be

I think this is mainly governed by expectation and received benefits.

I would let my doctor see me naked, because I'm expecting the doctor will fix my problem if I agreed to do so, and I assume the doctor will respect my privacy by not leaking information about my physical characteristics and private parts with others.

But what if it's for example the owner of my favor restaurant asking to see the same? I don't think I would go there anymore.