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Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Intermittent fasting has a nice advantage - nobody can make any money off of it. This gives it an inherent legitimacy. Contrast all other fad diets, and essentially every supplement ever sold.

>Intermittent fasting has a nice advantage - nobody can make any money off of it.

I think the Abrahamic religions figured it out already...you create holy days like Yom Kippur, Lent, Ramadan and make fasting a mainstay of the traditions. Boom, not only can you make money on not eating, but you can simultaneously take credit for all the actual benefits of the fast itself.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was brainstorming with a friend about creating an alternative social environment to replace restaurants for fasters, but couldn't come up with any good ideas.

We call the cafes. They can serve coffee, tea, etc, have people talk, listen to music, etc.

I’d love to see a cafe (in my area at least) with a very social “hacker” vibe. Used books on all walls, electronic parts to build with, chess sets, events and meetups. A place a kid could come with $15 bucks and find a good tutor maybe (corkboard for community postings, jobs, clubs)

I was reading about how back in the day original coffee houses were a meeting place for socialites and thinkers alike to share ideas. I’d love to see that sense of community nowadays,I feel like it’s missing in the US and would be celebrated, but maybe it’s just my nerdy idealization.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Anecdote: I tried intermittent fasting for 11 months with very, very little to show for it. I did the 18 hours off and 6 hours of eating plan. I have also tried a strict vegetarian diet for 6 months with no real changes in blood work. My Cholesterol didn't move to the dismay of my PCP and myself quite frankly. Biology: I am a professional Firefighter that ran 1000 miles and bicycled 250 miles during this time frame.…

Problem with vegetarian diet is it allows for eating cheese and eggs which are full of cholesterol. I've been vegan for a while and my blood work has improved dramatically. Also, just being vegan/vegetarian doesn't mean anything unless you also eat well; lots of vegetables, fruit, nuts, legumes and whole grains. I'm guessing 8-10 beers a week didn't help, full of sugar.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Anecdote: I tried intermittent fasting for 11 months with very, very little to show for it. I did the 18 hours off and 6 hours of eating plan. I have also tried a strict vegetarian diet for 6 months with no real changes in blood work. My Cholesterol didn't move to the dismay of my PCP and myself quite frankly. Biology: I am a professional Firefighter that ran 1000 miles and bicycled 250 miles during this time frame.…

The benefits of this diet seem to come from lowered blood sugar and a capacity to produce ketones that affect cellular signaling in various ways. The fact that you were doing so much aerobic activity tells me you probably had low enough blood sugar and high enough ketone synthesis rates that the dieting was redundant. Most people don't work out aerobically like that.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

#155
post #72

This is just called skipping breakfast. But I guess there was a need for a new fancy term for an old thing.

> This is just called skipping breakfast. But I guess there was a need for a new fancy term for an old thing.

On the contrary, we need to be reminded of what we've forgotten; and the proof is in the word itself: "break fast" literally means to break your overnight fast. Our forebears understood the concept of "fasting until your first meal" very well.

The fact is that it's almost certain that for the vast majority of people, until the 20th century, "intermittent fasting" was just called "life". Our hunter-gatherer ancestors couldn't count on three solid meals a day, and even the best-fed would almost certainly have gone into periods of "fasting" several times a week just because of the way life was. A few hundred years ago, many people might have their first meal at 10am (after a few hours of work), and their last meal at 4pm.

And that's exactly why it's actually quite healthy. Your body is designed to fast (i.e., run out of glycogen and have to rely on ketosis), the same way it's designed to exercise; and going through life without any fasting turns out to be as harmful as going through life without any exercise.

But the good news is you don't need to do 36-hour fasts to get at least a bit of health benefits, just like you don't need to go running to get health benefits from exercise. A good brisk walk is way better than no exercise at all; and a 16/8 fasting schedule is better than eating constantly from the time you wake up until the time you go to bed.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes. I have been on the intermittent fasting thing for about 6 months. I started with 14 hours then 16 hours and now 18-20 hour fast. I dropped 10 pounds. I have a history of diabetes in my family. I took the 28andME DNA test and it said i have a predisposition to diabetes. The doc said to me. You have pre-diabetes just continue to workout and watch what you eat and your insurance does n…

You can get some of these benefits on keto, including steady energy levels, reduced brain fog, and no morning carb hangover headaches. The good news is you can eat what you want, the bad news is basically no carbs ever which makes eating out difficult. I'm surprised a narrow IF feeding window gives the carb benefits, but sounds worth a try for sustainability long term.

This was my experience when I jumped on the Paleo bandwagon about 10 years ago. Prior to that carbs were a substantial part of my diet. English muffins, bagels, toast and cereal in the morning, sandwiches for lunch and bread as part of every dinner, along with more cereal as a nighttime snack.

After cutting all that out my energy levels were much more even. It was like night & day. I also dropped several pounds over the course of the first month. I'll occasionally treat myself to bread/carbs but nowhere near to the degree I used to.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Are there any active studies on intermittent fasting in healthy young adults? (NY area)

I’m interested in intermittent fasting but I’d like to objectively track the effects beyond fat/weight loss. For example: ketone body blood concentration, respiratory exchange ratio, heart rate variability, etc.

I couldn’t find anything here but maybe I’m not looking in the right place: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=intermittent+fas...

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

#158
post #83

Intermittent fasting has a nice advantage - nobody can make any money off of it. This gives it an inherent legitimacy. Contrast all other fad diets, and essentially every supplement ever sold.

I don’t think it’s that different from other diets. The money is in books and consulting. People also need to know what to eat when they aren’t fasting so there is an opportunity there.

IF is actually very binary, you just don't eat when you're fasting and eat whatever you want when you're not. (But try to keep it under 600 calories if you're a man, 500 if you're a women. And of course the healthier the food the better, think fish, greens, etc.) It's that simple.

I like OP's point, this diet works and it can't be sold to people en-mass which causes confusion when different retailers put their own little spin on things. Most fad diets are confusing, hard to follow, and sold to you. IF is none of those things.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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I’d like to fast until lunch time but I haven’t found any substitute for milk in coffee and I fear that breaks any fasting benefits.

If you just want the caffeine for awakeness in the morning, try caffeine pills. They are ridiculously cheap at like 5 cents a pill off of amazon and super easy to take. They are especially nice too if you are tired in bed in the morning as I just take a pill from my nightstand, swallow it, lay back in bed for 15 minutes and then I'm usually ready to get up.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do multi day fasts (water Ott broth fasts, so no carbs) and once I am in ketosis I actually feel like I can concentrate as well as when I eat. It's key to not refeed carbs at all during fasting (no juices, honey, etc). I also occasionally do keto between the fasts which might have helped my metabolism switching to ketosis more quickly. Ketosis is - in brief - a metabolic state where the body primarily used fats to…

What is "water Ott broth"? Couldn't find it in Google.

"water or broth"
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