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Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by passive »

GuB-42 wrote: post #123
fmj wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's placed over the antenna for the Bluetooth LE chip. I'm assuming it's related to antenna tuning/calibration.

That the ruler is related to the antenna tuning is the initial guess of the author too, but he is unsure. But come to think of it, why is the PCB silk-screened in the first place? I don't think such a cheap board will ever get serviced by the manufacturer, and slikscreening is cheap but not free. My guess is that it is "just in case". If something goes wrong, the silkscreen is there so that things can be fixed by an…

I do software quality assurance, and it wouldn't surprise me if this was put in by request of their QA department. I don't know if a human looks at every PCB, but however many they sample to QA, this would be a quick way to check an important feature of the hardware.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by bonestamp2 »

lilyball wrote: post #53

I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality. I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS: 1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which lea…

Try downloading "Logi Options", that is the newer logitech mac management software and it solves number 1 at least.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by bonestamp2 »

I love this article and while reading it I realized that I wish I could scroll down exactly one "page" with my mouse so I mapped the MX Master side back/forward buttons to space/shift+space so now it's really nice to read long articles like this using the button to scroll down one page instead of the mousewheel.

Also nice for HN comment threads. :)

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by sunstone »

VectorLock wrote: post #137
deanclatworthy wrote: post #7

For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/

Wake me up when they resurrect their most famous trackball: The Trackman Marble FX.

The Logitech MX Ergo might be worth a look. Definitely works for me. Probably not great for gaming though.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by verinus »

saltcod wrote: post #121

Great mice but I’m surprised no one has mentioned weight. The master 3 is 141g! That’s a brick! I’ve been hunting for a mouse with this kind of scroll wheel that was less than 90g or so forever. 141g would kill my arm in a few hours.

Me too. I sold my MX Master as I felt it much too heavy to use...

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by urxvtcd »

sunstone wrote: post #154
VectorLock wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wake me up when they resurrect their most famous trackball: The Trackman Marble FX.

The Logitech MX Ergo might be worth a look. Definitely works for me. Probably not great for gaming though.

Yeah, I can recommend it too. I experienced wrist numbness and pain, and they went away completely after I started using it. Originally I just wanted a vertical mouse, but MX Ergo is both vertical and a trackball. Go with MX Ergo Plus if you can, it has an additional wedge increasing the angle even more.

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Post by smittywerben »

gruez wrote: post #77
rofo1 wrote: post #35

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For MX518 lovers, I've got a strong recommendation for G400s. The shape is almost the same and it's amazing how durable it is. The cable issue is still there, just like in MX518, and eventually (I am guessing) that's the reason I'll have to switch to something else. I've been using both of them for years and years. Amazing.

>For MX518 lovers, I've got a strong recommendation for G400s. but both are discontinued

That sounds right IIRC the g400 was the old mx518 but without the peely plastic skin issue. They stopped selling old mx518 and I ended up with the g400. Both mice seemed close enough to me. For some reason the g400 was only considered a spiritual successor.

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Post by rayhendricks »

whalesalad wrote: post #59
lilyball wrote: post #53

I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality. I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS: 1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which lea…

Logitech software is a dumpster fire. For a while there it would start and go to 170-190% CPU and just burn until it was killed. I share your experience and frustration.

This is why I’m using a $10 anker vertical mouse with whatever defaults drivers windows finds. Cuts right thought the bloat. Also works on Linux/OS X.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by utopcell »

I am a long-time user of the MX series, having used the master 1 and 2 and multiple anywheres 1 and 2 for years, mainly for their free-scrolling wheels. I was surprised when Microsoft upstaged them with their precision mouse line, which has a "patented magnetic scrolling". It seems to me that Logitech is just playing catch-up with the "MagSpeed" wheels on the master 3.
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