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Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by scarface74 »

wolco wrote: post #145
bad_user wrote: post #131

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Not sure what you mean, but as an anecdote I quit using desktop Linux years ago and whenever I go to developer conferences, the majority are on MacOS and I think I see more people on Windows 10 than on Linux. That people wouldn't buy into Apple stuff is a big assumption, because we did do just that, for better or worse. Speaking of which, I see many more successful commercial desktop apps for MacOS than for Windows o…

There might be some bias in there. " see many more successful commercial desktop apps for MacOS than for Windows or Linux combined" Office profits by itself would crush all MacOS application sales. Maybe it is easier for the single developer to create something profitable on MacOS but that's because the bigger players have marketshare over windows in the profitable niches.

Office has always been available for the Mac. How many indy developers and small shops outside of games really have been successful making software?

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by thenewnewguy »

scarface74 wrote: post #71
bad_user wrote: post #55

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Developers in general are very influential. Not only among our family and friends, but also because our choices create a lock-in effect due to the nature of our work. When you use Chrome day in and out, your work is going to be optimized for Chrome and will work best on Chrome. This led to a Chrome-optimized web and while Google isn't necessarily to blame, we're back to the days of " works best in IExplorer 6 ". Comp…

Developers and computer geeks have been overestimating their influence for over a decade. If geeks were influential, the “year of the Linux desktop” would have been years ago, no one would be on Facebook, and people wouldn’t buy into Apple’s wall garden and people would care about “freedom”. Definitely no one would have bought the iPod since it “had less space than the Nomad and no wireless”. ( https://slashdot.org/s…

I think you're overestimating how unpopular those things are with devs/geeks. As a current (comp sci) college student, I can say that while less popular than in the general public - Windows, Facebook, and Apple's ecosystem are still used by a large number of my peers.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by melling »

rutierut wrote: post #24
Phenix88be wrote: post #13

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Because they all eat a lots of RAM...

This is a good comment, I use FF Dev and Chrome RN, the current project I'm working on is Chrome only. It's nice for context switching (docs, etc in FF, debugging & development in GC) but I was not able to do this (1y ago) on my 2013 MB Pro, it was simply to slow.

I have a 2013 Mac Book Pro with 16 GB of RAM. They all run fine at the same time.

I also have Xcode and several other apps open.

Don’t skimp on RAM. My next computer will have 32GB of RAM. It’ll extend the usefulness by years.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by barkingcat »

_coveredInBees wrote: post #140
fireattack wrote: post #113

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People on HN don't seem to like it when some other companies start their product from one platform.

Nor do they like it when they do support all platforms from day one via an Electron app...

People on HN don't like anything.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by yani »

leshow wrote: post #148
wruza wrote: post #130

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I’m talking about numerous issues that I had with linux kernel (and alikes) on desktops and workstations for decades. My story is freebsd 4.x-7.0, then debian (codenames I forgot), then OSX 10.5-10.9, then unbuntu/mint since ~ 2014-2016 maybe (when gpu and os updates broke it again). I also supervised an entire office of debian/ubuntu + printers & scanners for few years. I’m not what you would call a regular linux ha…

Linux these days, if you just want a working desktop experience, requires no configuration. You pop in an ubuntu usb drive and install, done. It will often run better than the version of windows that the machine actually shipped with. Myself, personally, I stopped running anything but linux more than a decade ago. All I remember from windows is how often it broke in ways that were completely unfixable.

Until you need to use an external device - camera, microphone, speakers, printer, scanner... most of the game mice keyboards...

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by Jyaif »

cocochanel wrote: post #57
inglor wrote: post #35

This is a pretty nice comment from the source that explains how it works: https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/11d9c7b7fa82fdfb8a... ``` // Recording and replaying works by controlling non-determinism in the browser: // non-deterministic behaviors are initially recorded, then later replayed // exactly to force the browser to behave deterministically. Two types of // non-deterministic behaviors are captured: intr…

What is non-determinism in the browser?

Once source comes from the memory allocator, and the pointers it gives out.

If you have an ordered map of pointers (e.g. std::map), iterating over the map will not be deterministic because the pointers given by a (regular) allocator are not deterministic.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by _bxg1 »

Very cool, but I'd much prefer they spend their time bringing Firefox's dev tools up to par with Chrome's first. I've tried several times to switch to FF completely, but every time I end up switching back on my work computer because of the dev tools.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by udfalkso »

_bxg1 wrote: post #157

Very cool, but I'd much prefer they spend their time bringing Firefox's dev tools up to par with Chrome's first. I've tried several times to switch to FF completely, but every time I end up switching back on my work computer because of the dev tools.

I recently switched back to FF after many years on chrome and find the dev tools to be as good of not better this time around. Curious which tools in particular you find worse? When was the last time you tried?

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by leevlad »

_bxg1 wrote: post #157

Very cool, but I'd much prefer they spend their time bringing Firefox's dev tools up to par with Chrome's first. I've tried several times to switch to FF completely, but every time I end up switching back on my work computer because of the dev tools.

Curious to hear what's missing. I do some light front-end work (css/react) and have been fully on Firefox for about a year. Haven't looked back.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

_bxg1 wrote: post #157

Very cool, but I'd much prefer they spend their time bringing Firefox's dev tools up to par with Chrome's first. I've tried several times to switch to FF completely, but every time I end up switching back on my work computer because of the dev tools.

Do you use developer edition? The only thing that was missing from regular Firefox for me was web socket connections messages, and those are in the developer edition (and apparently coming soon to regular Firefox).
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