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Re: Brave launches 1.0

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I've used Brave since March, and I'm really not impressed. For a browser that tries to be different, it's incredible how little consideration has been given to things that annoy users and that could probably be trivial to remove. To be more specific, my issues with Brave are: - Still uses the Chrome Web Store as main store - Does not have an easy way to load packaged extensions from 3rd party sources - Even after add…

It's perfect for my use case: Chrome but with all the google bits removed and built-in ad-blocking. Can't say any of those things you listed have bothered me. I don't use BAT. Edit: Why do so many new accounts (green text) post to any thread about Brave?

Same here - I don't want extensions or complexity on mobile, just a simple, fast browser with and blocking. Brave is perfect for me on mobile.

On desktop I browse differently, and use extensions, so Firefox with uBlock Origin works perfectly for me on desktop

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#153
post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

> rather than intrusive in-page ads, Brave ads show up as a notification in your operating system I'm sorry, how is that not orders of magnitudes MORE intrusive?

Brave ads don't track you around the web and sell your data to other advertisers. Brave ads don't slow down the pages your browsing, or get in the way of the content you're trying to view. And, Brave ads are optional; you only view them if you want to support the pages/news sites/YouTube channels you're viewing.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#154
I'm going to give this a try again. I REALLY want the model of micropayments vs ads to work. I realize content creators need to get paid, I just refuse to be subtly influenced by ads in my day to day life. I currently use an ad blocker in Chrome to get around that but I'm perfectly fine paying $5 a month to creators I use.

The problem is that I think ads may be worth even more than that to creators, which if you have any doubt about their efficacy should make you rethink.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#155
post #90
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You aren't really meant to have a "system" of earning and spending BAT that balances each month. The budget of BAT you set each month comes from your wallet, and is essentially your personal donation to the various websites you use, it's not related to ads. This wallet can run out in the same way any wallet can run out, and you'd have to refill it. The BAT you can earn from seeing ads is separate and unrelated to tha…

Maybe my misunderstanding was more fundamental? It sounds like you're saying that people can purchase BAT for their wallets? I was thinking along the lines of the only method of acquisition being basically "view the brave ads". Can users purchase BAT outright for their wallets?

BAT is a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin, so yeah, you spend dollars to buy BAT, and put it your brave browser wallet, and decide your monthly donation budget. This is so that you can choose to support web and content creators online without the needs of ads. Think of it as automatic micro-donations based on your browsing.

The ads are a completely separate feature, you enable voluntary ads to be shown to you, and in exchange you get paid a portion of what the advertisers paid to display those ads. This is in contrast to the most common model we have online today, where you view ads in exchange for using free services like gmail or youtube.

It's likely that these two features both use the same BAT wallet tied to your brave browser, but that's the only thing they have in common.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#156
post #22

I've used Brave since March, and I'm really not impressed. For a browser that tries to be different, it's incredible how little consideration has been given to things that annoy users and that could probably be trivial to remove. To be more specific, my issues with Brave are: - Still uses the Chrome Web Store as main store - Does not have an easy way to load packaged extensions from 3rd party sources - Even after add…

It's perfect for my use case: Chrome but with all the google bits removed and built-in ad-blocking. Can't say any of those things you listed have bothered me. I don't use BAT. Edit: Why do so many new accounts (green text) post to any thread about Brave?

https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#157
post #22

I've used Brave since March, and I'm really not impressed. For a browser that tries to be different, it's incredible how little consideration has been given to things that annoy users and that could probably be trivial to remove. To be more specific, my issues with Brave are: - Still uses the Chrome Web Store as main store - Does not have an easy way to load packaged extensions from 3rd party sources - Even after add…

It's perfect for my use case: Chrome but with all the google bits removed and built-in ad-blocking. Can't say any of those things you listed have bothered me. I don't use BAT. Edit: Why do so many new accounts (green text) post to any thread about Brave?

https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

ungoogled-chromium A lightweight approach to removing Google web service dependency

ungoogled-chromium is Google Chromium, sans dependency on Google web services. It also features some tweaks to enhance privacy, control, and transparency (almost all of which require manual activation or enabling).

ungoogled-chromium retains the default Chromium experience as closely as possible. Unlike other Chromium forks that have their own visions of a web browser, ungoogled-chromium is essentially a drop-in replacement for Chromium.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#158
post #90
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You aren't really meant to have a "system" of earning and spending BAT that balances each month. The budget of BAT you set each month comes from your wallet, and is essentially your personal donation to the various websites you use, it's not related to ads. This wallet can run out in the same way any wallet can run out, and you'd have to refill it. The BAT you can earn from seeing ads is separate and unrelated to tha…

Maybe my misunderstanding was more fundamental? It sounds like you're saying that people can purchase BAT for their wallets? I was thinking along the lines of the only method of acquisition being basically "view the brave ads". Can users purchase BAT outright for their wallets?

Yes you can but and sell BAT on coinbase for example

https://blog.coinbase.com/buy-and-sell-bat-on-coinbase-454a7...

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#159
post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

I would personally much rather allocate actual dollars instead of CryptoBuckOfTheDay backed by ads I have no desire to ever watch. Say, $20/month that gets allocated to sites I visit. The whole "reward people for watching ads" model just seems... wrong.

It's so sad that Xanadu never took off.

It was envisioned exactly like that

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#160
post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

You had me...

> Brave ads show up as a notification in your operating system outside of the page.

and then you lost me. Hitting people with notifications is an escalation of ad hostility, not a reduction.

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