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Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Bundling Pocket, resetting default search provider back to Google on updates. Just a couple off the top of my head. I'm a long-time Firefox user, FWIW.

I use DuckDuckGo as my default search engine and it has never reverted back to Google. Perhaps it only happens on certain major updates??

Have also been using it for about a year on linux stable FF, never had it reset.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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We know very well that well-designed keyboard UI can run circles around mouse-based one in a typical application. If you're a user of a "Kanban board", you're not some aunt with a phone, you are most likely in the office and you can learn to use the keyboard productively in the productivity app you use every day.

> If you're a user of a "Kanban board", you're not some aunt with a phone No. Instead it means you are a project manager, and that often implies that your technical skills are on the same level as that aunt, maybe slightly better, but not by much. > you are most likely in the office and you can learn to use the keyboard Or just keep using drag'n'drop which is the established pattern, which also works really well for…

> > If you're a user of a "Kanban board", you're not some aunt with a phone

> No. Instead it means you are a project manager

Actually there are no project managers using Kanbanize at that customer of mine. They have exactly one developer and currently three freelance developers working remotely. All of us use Kanbanize every day because it's the place where we write the specs of what we have to do. One of the partners use it to answer our questions but I don't think he moves cards around.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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How about enabling DNS-over-HTTPS, which routes your entire browsing history to a third party, based on selections labelled "OK, Got It" and "Disable Protection": https://github.com/mozilla/doh-rollout/issues/125 Don't get me wrong, DoH is great if you have a shady ISP. But it should be opt-in, not opt-out, since those of us who don't have shady ISPs don't want all our DNS queries centralized in the same place, to be…

Your complaint is about a Web Extension Experiment that they're currently testing and not a feature they have shipped in the browser. It seems like this isn't shady at all, but rather they're testing something and soliciting feedback. You provided some and they responded that they plan to write a blog post about it. So what's shady here? That the process is working?

My understanding is that this is how it's being rolled out, eventually to 100% of users:

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2019/09/06/whats-nex...

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

#154

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Bundling Pocket, resetting default search provider back to Google on updates. Just a couple off the top of my head. I'm a long-time Firefox user, FWIW.

> Bundling Pocket Why is that a problem? I never got the furore over it. When it appeared, I removed the icon and just went about my business. Annoying yes, but certainly not "shady". From what I understood / stand it was a mozilla app they included with the browser, not that different to how firefox comes with a bookmarks app.

It should be mentioned that it also adds articles to your new tab page, which is possible to remove but not easy for most people.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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It's the same as games saying: "windows only". They could argue that it's a technical requirement.

In the "Windows only" case it is kind of reasonable: supporting another platform takes work. When they are blocking other browsers explicitly despite the fact that the other platforms work that is a whole different level.

In this case it's more like a game detecting that it's being run through Wine, and blocking it, even if it would have worked fine.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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The reported issue was addressed within 21 days. I'm not sure that this issue illustrates the case you're trying to make here.

I respectfully disagree: Try to explain your users that they won't get drag and drop for 21 days. This would have been worse if there weren't passionate people aggressively following it. A Google account integration issue would always be more important than web pages being broken in many subtle ways. This wasn't the case when they didn't hold the browser monopoly.

Try to explain to your users why all their add-ons were disabled because you forgot to renew a certificate.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I switched to Firefox after they stopped caring about usability issues (like right clicking without releasing left mouse button deselects the text since v fifty-something on windows), the difficulties they created for ad blockers, the account integration fiasco, and so on. I know this particular bug seems to be an edge case that may happen with every browser, but when you are using Chrome, you should know that if an…

I've noticed recently that the configuration for Mozilla is actually more difficult to disable all the privacy-impacting options and they are in more obscure locations, than with Chromium. The only exception being once you enable sync in Chrome-based browsers it will add additional options that then have to be disabled as well.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Given that Chrome ended Opera, and is effectively ending IE/Edge, people really need to take pause and appreciate and be thankful that Firefox is still around. I think the "shady shit" Mozilla has pulled lately are death rattles. I certainly don't expect it to be around in another 5-10 years. Firefox's tiny market share is all that stands between all the W3C and WHATG publications going from "standards" to "what Chro…

Why would they ever do an IE6? They don't want to cripple the web as an application platform as MS did but move as much things as possible onto it.

Why did MS want to do an IE6? For power and control. You imply a difference in your statement, but it's only a matter of time before it becomes too seductive to resist.

It only needs to make sense in the minds of a handful of high-level managers, and we all suffer.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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> Bundling Pocket Why is that a problem? I never got the furore over it. When it appeared, I removed the icon and just went about my business. Annoying yes, but certainly not "shady". From what I understood / stand it was a mozilla app they included with the browser, not that different to how firefox comes with a bookmarks app.

Originally it was a proprietary program from a for-profit company. That's why people got upset.

The server component is still proprietary and closed source, at least the last time I checked.
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