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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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#152

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This is what happens when you fund your deficit spending with foreign investors for too long.

That's a too simplistic conclusion based on myth... https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/080615/china... And these are private companies bought by private investors (ok one could argue it's Chinese government money..), what does that have to do with government deficit?

You think this sort of investment is any different than investment in general? Investors will pick a bucket of investments with differing risk pools like tbills, stocks, bonds etc.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#153
post #142

China is very smart. They saw what was happening in the West - oppression of freedom of speech on account of "hurt feelings" - and applied the same principles for their own nefarious purposes ("hurt Chinese feelings" a.k.a. political censorship). Literally noone could have seen this coming. /s edit: XCabbage better explains what I was trying to say. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21191253

This is utter nonsense. Political censorship in the East is not a response to modern liberal views in the West. That is so completely obvious that it boggles the mind that I even needed to say it.

>> Political censorship in the East is not a response to modern liberal views in the West.

Of course it's not, but you're missing the point. They're simply taking advantage of this incoherence in the current western value.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#154
post #142

China is very smart. They saw what was happening in the West - oppression of freedom of speech on account of "hurt feelings" - and applied the same principles for their own nefarious purposes ("hurt Chinese feelings" a.k.a. political censorship). Literally noone could have seen this coming. /s edit: XCabbage better explains what I was trying to say. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21191253

This is utter nonsense. Political censorship in the East is not a response to modern liberal views in the West. That is so completely obvious that it boggles the mind that I even needed to say it.

Well thank God then that wasn't my argument.

What I'm saying is, China is co-opting modern liberal censorship in the West to do it's own political censorship (edit: in the West).

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#155
post #61

Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. Really seems like a win win scenario.

How about Chinese owners? Chinese Tencent owns 5 percent of Blizzard, if full owner of Riot Games, 48% of Epic Games, 11.5% of Bluehole (Fortnite and PUBG), 5% of Ubisoft. They are also investor in Discord. https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-... AMC is fully owned by Chinese. The largest movie theater chain in the United States is fully owned by Chinese. Legendary Entertainment Group is owned…

If you think that is scary look at who owns our defense industries now that the pre Clinton era small contractors were forced to merge.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#156
post #142

China is very smart. They saw what was happening in the West - oppression of freedom of speech on account of "hurt feelings" - and applied the same principles for their own nefarious purposes ("hurt Chinese feelings" a.k.a. political censorship). Literally noone could have seen this coming. /s edit: XCabbage better explains what I was trying to say. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21191253

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Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#157
Have we all forgotten when Mozilla replaced the CTO with a long history of internet freedom work to replace him with a marketing director and the disaster that followed?

Are we going to keep trampling on all our freedoms in the name of ... freedom(?) and then blame it all on China?

EDIT: I knew some people were going to try to spin it into something it wasn't.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#158
It's a shame but I feel like the majority of gamers won't care. They'll either be ignorant of this or they'll just shrug and continue playing. I boycotted Activision and by proxy Blizzard when Activision acquired them a long time ago but their continuing success shows I'm part of an extremely tiny minority.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#159
post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is utter nonsense. Political censorship in the East is not a response to modern liberal views in the West. That is so completely obvious that it boggles the mind that I even needed to say it.

Well thank God then that wasn't my argument. What I'm saying is, China is co-opting modern liberal censorship in the West to do it's own political censorship (edit: in the West).

> China is co-opting modern liberal censorship in the West to do it's own political censorship

No, it’s using good old greater-pile-of-money diplomacy. SJWs aren’t running around rooting for Xi. This is a company with major economic exposure to China bowing to censors’ wills.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

#160

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Make them choose between the two markets. I'm tired of the idea that the Western and Chinese markets can both be appeased the middle of the road morality. What is happening in HK right now is wrong, and the west has fought wars over this very issue.

It's the authoritarian Chinese government insisting on censorship. Not so much the Chinese market.

authoritarian government is a tautology
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