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Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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I had a recent request from a product owner to style the subject line... I said we can't do that and that I don't want to live in a world where senders can change the font or size of the subject in an email.... Can you imagine the crap we would have from spam in that case?!

Y̗̳̬͍̘͚o͘u͏ ͏̬̟̩h̦̕a̰̖͍̟v̧̯̜͉͙̖͖͉e҉̳̲̙͚̗̬ ̤͚͉̀w̢̫͎̮̼͇o̷̮̙̩n̪͙͎̠͔ ̻̮a̛̭ ̡̪̤̻ͅp̵̭͇r̩͉į̬̺̭̯͍͙z̯͈͟e!͖̖͈̯ ie don't any mua let you use UTF8? 𝔻𝕠𝕖𝕤 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕤 𝕨𝕠𝕣𝕜?

Firefox on mobile mangle that pretty bad on - at least the vertical space :/

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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Something like this? http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1896.txt

Thanks for the RFC link. Yes, basically. I mean, different mime versions of the same content are a possibility to do this transition: Send both plaintext, HTML and markdown, and the receiver could choose to display markdown if he otherwise would display plain text. To be honest, this won't come. Google is pushing AMP into mails, that's exactly the opposite direction.

Isn't markdown just turned into html?

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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Markdown is nice for composing, but not as a standard to be supported by many clients. CommonMark is an improvement, but there is way to many ambiguities and differences in supported features over different markdown parsers for it to be feasibly used as a standard. Markdown is also not any better than HTML in terms of security - most markdown parsers allow passing through arbitrary HTML, and then depend on sanitizing…

This is a bigger issue than most people care to admit. I post stuff to a number of different sites that support "Markdown" and not a single one agrees on even something a simple as how to format a hyperlink. I end up having to hit the help page on every site to remember which syntax they use, if they even support the feature at all. HTML might be "ugly", but at least it is consistent.

I wish there was a browser extension to handle that. It would provide an editing area that would allow you to edit using the same markup on different sites, and when you are done would translate to whatever markup format that site uses and fill in the site's edit area with that.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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You send me anything other than plain text in an email, and I don't already have a source filter for your address, it gets sent to a folder that I might look at if I have the time some day.

So you don't buy things online or travel or do your taxes digitally?

99% of important transactional email I get is HTML. Kind of nice to have your boarding passes and two-factor authentication emails easily visible.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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Why using plain text is better: - readable under any mail client and any text editor - smaller size files - safer - better accessibility and compatibility with screen readers

I don't get why plain text would be more accessible than a well-formed HTML email. A screen reader could say "this is a title", "this is a list item". In plain text, what do you get? "dash bla bla"? Though I hope screen reader are more intelligent than that, but it seems like a more complex problem than just using information given by a well-formed HTML text.

Well, plain text doesn't require smart or sophisticated screen readers. Anything that can read text will work, that's why plain text emails are more accessible. Not every person that needs screen reader can afford some top of the line device.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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By the same logic you could say that internet explorer was doing good things

No, the logic is: I want styled content on the Web and plain text in my emails.

For that very reason you have MIME type setting

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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Y̗̳̬͍̘͚o͘u͏ ͏̬̟̩h̦̕a̰̖͍̟v̧̯̜͉͙̖͖͉e҉̳̲̙͚̗̬ ̤͚͉̀w̢̫͎̮̼͇o̷̮̙̩n̪͙͎̠͔ ̻̮a̛̭ ̡̪̤̻ͅp̵̭͇r̩͉į̬̺̭̯͍͙z̯͈͟e!͖̖͈̯ ie don't any mua let you use UTF8? 𝔻𝕠𝕖𝕤 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕤 𝕨𝕠𝕣𝕜?

The first one does not work great in a terminal. The words are readable but I don't get the full experience. The second one, pretty good.

Seems like your terminal doesn't support the last line. I will repeat all three lines in tunarly fashion.

Line 1:

" You have wøn a prize! "

Unincluded line; my sister got bitten by a prize once. Or a terminal. Onto line twø: two:

Line two: (2:)

" ie don't any mua let you use UTF8? "

And three:

" Does this work? "

All the lines for all the good people. The " signs " are a delimiter for each line. They're, or should be pretty verbatim, minus the unrenderability.

Have fun.

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