The Amazon Is Not the Earth’s Lungs

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Re: The Amazon Is Not the Earth’s Lungs

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Post by gambiting » Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 10:20 AM UTC

dahdum wrote: post #137

gambiting wrote: post #53

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Yes, but the temperature rose to those levels over millenia, not just hundreds of years. Ultimately, life on Earth will adapt - it's just that we might not survive long enough to witness the adaptation.

I'm curious how you picture the scenarios in which humanity doesn’t survive even +10F average over the next 200 years? Let’s also say a population of several billion. I see the sentiment often, even in journalism, and I don’t see a realistic path even absent the inevitable new technology.

Right, so I don't think we would completely die out. As always with almost any catastrophe, there would always be small pockets of humans surviving somewhere and I think it's reasonable to say they would rebuild eventually.

I'm just thinking that if the oxygen levels drop a few percent that won't kill us, but it will start affecting our cognitive levels - so I'm imagining that those who can afford it will just carry portable oxygen bottles with them. Offices/homes will be equipped with oxygen disperses through the ventilation systems, just so we can feel "normal". I imagine that would cause massive unrest with people who cannot afford this.

But hey, this is just speculation. Maybe we will find a technological solution long before this happens.

Re: The Amazon Is Not the Earth’s Lungs

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Post by mistermann » Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 5:48 PM UTC

wutbrodo wrote: post #147

mistermann wrote: post #117

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> It's been really interesting to me to see how the concept that lying in support of your preferred narrative is the correct way to engage publicly with a problem has evolved over the last few years. It seems like only a few years ago that people who admitted to this strategy were roundly condemned. I often think of the election of Donald Trump in this sense...in a way, he is showing us crystal clear how our politica…

> And rather than the left being shocked into a higher state of consciousness and considering they may need to rethink their overall political strategy, instead it seems they've essentially decided to double down with more of the same theater. Every time I think I've found the first mover, there's a justification that goes further back. I'm a solid left-liberal, represented most closely by Obama, who discovered throu…

Oh of course it didn't start with Trump, or Obama, or GWB, and so on, but my point is that while those on the left consider themselves more righteous than those on the right (a reasonable belief), at the same time most seem utterly incapable of seeing that their leaders are also playing a game largely based on deceit. It's not unreasonable at all to say you have to fight fire with fire, but that so many find it uninteresting and unimportant that our entire (both sides) political process essentially consists of lies and misrepresentations just seems very odd to me.

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