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Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by benofsky »

EGreg wrote: post #111

Now that the iPhone is on the Verizon network, the competition with Android will heat up. Until now, Apple had to field unnerving questions about the total # of Android units sold vs iPhone units sold. But there was always a very relevant factor holding it back: to get the iPhone in the US, you had to be on AT&T. Until now. Now that the iPhone is no longer married to AT&T and will be offered by Verizon as well, milli…

I'm not sure about that, I don't know what pricing is like in the US but here (Ireland) Android phones are significantly cheaper. Most people I know who buy an Android phone, do so because it was a cheap phone, not because it's a 'smartphone' (excluding the more technically inclined friends of mine) — while the iPhone and Android are certainly competitors, I don't think people buy Android for the same reason. If I'm making sense...

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by Lewisham »

ohhmaagawd wrote: post #149
Lewisham wrote: post #144

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I really hope this year is the year iOS also gets a refresh too. Apple has really let it stagnate and let their hardware do the talking. Windows Phone 7, I think, is a much prettier interface. Android has some killer features, like Navigation. Apple has the apps, which I guess is a perpetual motion machine for them, but iOS feels old. I worry that that won't change, as Mac OS has stayed fairly stationary from a UI pe…

Eh? They have had 2 iOS refreshes in the past year.

No no, they've had feature patches on top of the UI they've already got. If you take my original first-gen iPod Touch and compare it to iOS 4, the differences are largely hardware, plus multitasking.

I would like a rethink of the icon grid, of staticness (like how the Calendar app doesn't actually show the correct date) and the like.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by jmelloy »

Tyrant505 wrote: post #13
[deleted] wrote: post #6

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I'm wouldn't be so sure of Apple's phone pipeline... The iPhone4 is still high spec and without much competition. Why not sell as many as possible then drop the next one at a better time?

They discontinued the iPod Mini when it was the highest selling music player in the world. I don't think they let sales stop them from replacing a product.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by WesleyJohnson »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #150
WesleyJohnson wrote: post #145

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To be honest, I haven't really surveyed the competition recently. I'm currently using the HTC/Droid Incredible and aesthetically, I love it. It's sleek, I love the feel of it in my hands and the durability is great. HTC Sense is also a nice sheen on top of Android, but I hate waiting for updates while HTC battle tests the new versions of Android. I could stick with Android and get a vanilla install on a Motorola, but…

Thanks for the feedback. :-) I'm trying to get a sense of which devices various people prefer. I get what you're saying about the "Apple allure" -- although other devices now are very, very close to Apple's design, there's still something compelling about Apple's presentation and overarching design of its products. As for the new stuff at CES, there were a handful of pretty powerful new devices announced, but the two…

Yes, that's the word I was trying to think of and couldn't: "allure". And you're right, Apple definitely has it in droves.

Anyway, thanks for listing off the Bionic and the Atrix. I had heard a bit about the Bionic, but nothing about the Atrix so I'm off to check those out. The Atrix does sound incredibly cool.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by kbd »

ohhmaagawd wrote: post #146
kbd wrote: post #100

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I would be very surprised if the iPhone 5 comes in GSM-specific and CDMA-specific models. I'd expect a unified model. I only wonder whether it'll support LTE as well.

then why didn't they do this for the Verizon iPhone 4?

Ask Apple, I'd only be speculating at why they didn't redesign their existing product to support it :P

But, since what they did for the Verizon iPhone has no bearing on what will appear in the iPhone 5, I don't really understand the point of your question.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by Yopie »

metamatt wrote: post #74
listic wrote: post #22

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Is Verizon's CDMA network technically compatible with anywhere else in the world? (e.g. so that you can us the same phone in U.S and elsewhere, provided it is not locked) Specifically, which frequency band does U.S. CDMA use?

"Locking" doesn't mean the same thing it does for GSM phones; CDMA phones have a builtin ID which is registered with the network, and there's no SIM card or equivalent to swap out to change that ID. Sprint and Verizon both use the same CDMA frequencies in the US, and Sprint and Verizon phones roam on each other's networks. But there's no button on your Sprint phone to push to make it a Verizon phone, or vice versa. S…

There is SIM Card equivalent for CDMA technology called R-UIM (Removable User Identity Module). It's commonly used by any CDMA phone outside the US.

I wonder if this CDMA iPhone come with R-UIM card or it have build in ID which register with the network?

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by ben1040 »

treblig wrote: post #105
ben1040 wrote: post #17

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I wonder how AT&T will respond to the hotspot feature. Here's hoping they relax a bit on tethering plans.

Agreed, but they've got some serious time on their side. For me (and everyone else who just picked up the 4), about a year and a half.

For those who are locked in on contract, sure, but I wonder how AT&T's tethering terms versus Verizon's are going to affect AT&T's ability to attract new customers.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by rbanffy »

cstross wrote: post #94
dboyd wrote: post #39

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Worldwide CDMA coverage: http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/

Looking at their map, it's highly misleading, implying there's CDMA 3G coverage in a bunch of places where there is no, or minimal coverage. (They're a trade body promoting CDMA -- what would you do in their shoes?) CDMA2000 aka EV-DO isn't compatible with W-CDMA, aka UMTS -- the 3G standard used just about everywhere -- and has about 10% of the market worldwide: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Compari…

> They're a trade body promoting CDMA -- what would you do in their shoes?

I would either tell the truth or quit the job. I take my professional code very seriously.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by rmc »

dboyd wrote: post #39
rmc wrote: post #31

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No I don't think so. Everwhere else on the world is GSM. That confused me when I first read about USA mobile phones, I wondered what this CDMA thing was.

Worldwide CDMA coverage: http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/

Very misleading. It highlights Ireland as a CDMA country (there's a trial apparently) However if you had a CDMA mobile phone, it won't work in Ireland.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by rmc »

steverb wrote: post #82
mkinsella wrote: post #3

"On February 3rd our existing customers will have an opportunity to pre-order... on February 10th, everyone will be able to order online, in stores, or in Apple stores." For once, a telecommunications company gives perks to existing customers. For far too long have cell phone and broadband companies pampered new customers with deals rather than existing customers (and rightly so but still frustrating).

I'm honestly confused why the opportunity to pre-order is considered a perk.

There's a chance they might be sold out.
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