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My Sudden Trip to Hell
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Generally OHIP does not cover medical care outside of Canada.[1] Apparently they'll cover $400 CDN per day of US hospital stay, so probably less than 4%. I sure hope he had travel insurance. Likely did as most companies offer it for employment travel. [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/medical-emergencies-i...
So what? He's Canadian. Good luck to the debt collectors trying to collect that.
That would align with what American’s do when getting treatment in Canada.
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#153It's a sign of what it's like to be an American that the following stood out to me: The timing of his illness is rather unfortunate, as it caught him in New York, rather than Toronto, which probably cost him a lot of money.
Pay for it with taxes, pay for it with premiums and bills. You’re paying for it. No one works for free, the medicine costs money. The money comes from somewhere.
> Pay for it with taxes, pay for it with premiums and bills. You’re paying for it.
Pay for what? CEO's billion-dollar salaries and luxury jets? I'm pretty sure Canadians aren't paying for that.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Universal Healthcare is generally only a thing in Canada and the EU. It's great if you need to wait a few months to see a doctor, but I know plenty of Canadians and Europeans who come to the US for medical care so they don't have to wait.
If you need emergency care, you don't have to wait (UK). My grandfather had a fall recently where he hit his head, and had a brain CT within two hours (he fell about 1am; he was admitted, assessed, treated, and discharged by 6am). A family member had an urgent referral for a mammogram last Thursday, and was assessed and given the results today. Routine GPs appointments can generally be gotten within a week, and emerg…
My wait for a routine MRI is about 2 hours....
My wait for a specialist referral is 2-3 days and any delay is usually on my end.
There are just some things the US healthcare system accidentally does much better than Europe.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Universal Healthcare is generally only a thing in Canada and the EU. It's great if you need to wait a few months to see a doctor, but I know plenty of Canadians and Europeans who come to the US for medical care so they don't have to wait.
not really, in most EU countries you don't wait for emergency problems
That doesn't describe the experiences of any of my former EU co-workers. (They're still in the EU, just not coworkers any more.)
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're attacking a strawman and being deliberately annoying.
I like to think of it as demonstrating why this type of argument is useless and counterproductive.
It's not working. That kind of childish parroting irritates even people who might otherwise agree with you.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hating on a Dr. for having a nice car is BS, but what you mention are failures of America. Only America trains their Dr. until they’re 35, while having them do nothing towards their medical degree in their undergrad. Only America saddles then with $500k in debt. Remove both barriers, and presumably you’d have market forces push more ppl to the profession reducing wages.
"Remove both barriers" How do you train a neurosurgeon? That level of specialization comes from maybe a few hundred in the U.S. With that level of scarcity (and demand), their time is going to be priced accordingly.
In school.
But s/he needn’t have a B.Arts in management to apply to med school first.
I don’t know what you mean by “Maybe a few hundred”. Do you mean schools or neurosurgeons?
If 1., there are only 150 med school for all Dr. in the US, contributing to a very low number of Dr. Per capita.
If 2. They study medicine. Do residency. And train on the job for the rest of their lives... just like today [0]
[0] actually one of the reasons for medical errors, a top three killer in the US, is that most Dr. don’t update their knowledge one thy finish their residency. :S
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It grew until I couldn’t fit trousers over my leg Good lord, your school let the thing grow on you without sending you to the doctor!? That's unbelievable negligence!
Oh, my entire leg inflated from the knee down - ended up thicker than my thigh and was agonising to touch. Negligence was kinda the name of the game at British boarding schools until the late 90’s, and probably still is - “the parents will never believe it” works 99% of the time.
My sister was at a boarding school just 3 years ago and exactly this happened when she broke her ankle - the school nurse told her to get some paracetamol and sleep it off. After seeing the picture of it I had to ring them up, demand that someone take her to the hospital for an x-ray, and they of course sent us an invoice for £50 for "transport to the hospital" anyway. Nothing happened to the nurse even though I complained higher up as far as I know.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, my entire leg inflated from the knee down - ended up thicker than my thigh and was agonising to touch. Negligence was kinda the name of the game at British boarding schools until the late 90’s, and probably still is - “the parents will never believe it” works 99% of the time.
My sister was at a boarding school just 3 years ago and exactly this happened when she broke her ankle - the school nurse told her to get some paracetamol and sleep it off. After seeing the picture of it I had to ring them up, demand that someone take her to the hospital for an x-ray, and they of course sent us an invoice for £50 for "transport to the hospital" anyway. Nothing happened to the nurse even though I comp…
If the nurse was a registered nurse you could complain to the NMC.
There's a push to protect the title of "nurse" in England, rather than "registered nurse".
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Universal Healthcare is generally only a thing in Canada and the EU. It's great if you need to wait a few months to see a doctor, but I know plenty of Canadians and Europeans who come to the US for medical care so they don't have to wait.
If you need emergency care, you don't have to wait (UK). My grandfather had a fall recently where he hit his head, and had a brain CT within two hours (he fell about 1am; he was admitted, assessed, treated, and discharged by 6am). A family member had an urgent referral for a mammogram last Thursday, and was assessed and given the results today. Routine GPs appointments can generally be gotten within a week, and emerg…
If you have a condition now you will be seen the same day even if it's not an emergency. I had a high fever for a couple of weeks and finally decided to see a GP - got an appointment in 2 hours of the call to the surgery, GP told me to go to the ambulatory care department at the nearest hospital(nothing to do with emergency care there) and I was admitted and seen pretty much within an hour of arriving. Spent several days over the next month in and out of the hospital, had some treatments done = no bill was ever produced.
Also when my wife had to get an MRI done going private wasn't that much quicker than NHS - you still had to wait a couple weeks through her private health insurance at work.