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Re: Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and tracking on porn sites

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Post by meruru »

Swizec wrote: post #141
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #136

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I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though. They're both something many/most people don't like to advertise. Maybe they'd be even less happy to have details of either habit known. You might think that's silly, but it's far from unusual, it's the norm.

Yeah but I still bring my personal tracking device to the bathroom. How else am I supposed to read memes? Which brings us to an interesting point. We all want immediate privacy right? Close the door when watching porn, make sure your webcam isn't turned on, close the bathroom when pooping etc. But having a VPN when watching porn or banning phones from the restroom, that's not something many (most?) people do. How com…

The main difference between those things is that one is easy to understand and the other is not.

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Post by novaRom »

FabHK wrote: post #23
anaphor wrote: post #15

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The paper is wrong when it says incognito mode only ensures your browser history is not stored. It also ensures that any session cookies are not shared between private mode / regular mode. Obviously that doesn't rule out other browser fingerprinting methods of course (see panopticlick, evercookies, etc) Edit: It seems like they are saying you can be tracked within incognito mode sessions? That seems pretty obvious. I…

> between private mode / regular mode Or within private mode. (I use private mode by default, and anytime I open a new tab, I need to log into HN again).

In Firefox on desktop you can use a container just for HN, another for Reddit, etc.

Re: Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and tracking on porn sites

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Post by meruru »

Swizec wrote: post #133
mirimir wrote: post #127

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I can't imagine visiting port sites without using at least a VPN. And without using an ~anonymous persona, and ~anonymous payment methods. And full-disk encryption. And as I recall, I never did. But people obviously do. And get nailed by stuff like RedTubeGate, and the Ashley Madison leak. It's mind-boggling. Edit: OK, so I get the "I love my porn, and you closed-minded idiots can just sod off". That's easy to say, w…

I watch porn. Like everybody else on the planet. Why hide something so mundane? It’s like pretending you don’t poop. We all know you poop. You’re human. Reminds me of a failed study I read about. Researchers wanted to look into the effects of porn and couldn’t find a big enough control group. There simply aren’t enough people who don’t watch porn to make the study viable. PS: in terms of malware it’s religious sites…

There are a lot of intolerant people of all kinds around. I can't blame people for being low-key about it. Arguably being open helps change that, but the more fringe content is going to take time to be accepted.

Re: Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and tracking on porn sites

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Post by hnaccy »

Raphmedia wrote: post #124
codesushi42 wrote: post #118

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I am not arguing the merits of openness, or whatever. But you don't need to travel all of the way to southern US to find that most people even in that age range aren't open about sharing their porn habits. Claiming there would be no consequences from sharing publicly is unrealistic at best and dishonest at worst.

Using Southern US was simply an overstatement. I'm sure I could look at my neighbours from the same appartment block and find people who are not as open about all of this. Could you provide examples on where disclosing your sexual preferences could be hurtful or dangerous? I honestly cannot imagine any situation except some edge cases where illegal habits are involved. (E.g. a high school teacher that searches for po…

It would be hurtful because it would negatively impact your social relations since it's unusual to be so open and there are a number of legal sexual interests that many find distasteful or even revolting.

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Post by namanyayg »

the8472 wrote: post #139
namanyayg wrote: post #119

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I see it everywhere, not just on reaction videos. I can count the number of reaction videos I've seen on one hand but the YouTube face is all over my homepage. The next iteration to this is out, it's using extreme Snapchat-esque filters to comically exaggerate the size of the eyes and mouth of a reaction face. It's mesmerisingly disgusting, I wonder what the next steps are. More digital augmentation awaits?

> I see it everywhere, not just on reaction videos. I have seen them in in-store advertising in supermarkets. > I wonder what the next steps are. More digital augmentation awaits? Virtual/retouched streaming personas. It's already a thing in japan and among furries.

What software is being used to create virtual personas? Am I right in understanding that this work isn't being done by Western companies?

Re: Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and tracking on porn sites

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Post by timClicks »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #136
Swizec wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watch porn. Like everybody else on the planet. Why hide something so mundane? It’s like pretending you don’t poop. We all know you poop. You’re human. Reminds me of a failed study I read about. Researchers wanted to look into the effects of porn and couldn’t find a big enough control group. There simply aren’t enough people who don’t watch porn to make the study viable. PS: in terms of malware it’s religious sites…

I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though. They're both something many/most people don't like to advertise. Maybe they'd be even less happy to have details of either habit known. You might think that's silly, but it's far from unusual, it's the norm.

This is actually cultural too. Stalls in China don't have doors.. nor toilets for that matter.

Re: Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and tracking on porn sites

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Post by Raphmedia »

hnaccy wrote: post #154
Raphmedia wrote: post #124

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Using Southern US was simply an overstatement. I'm sure I could look at my neighbours from the same appartment block and find people who are not as open about all of this. Could you provide examples on where disclosing your sexual preferences could be hurtful or dangerous? I honestly cannot imagine any situation except some edge cases where illegal habits are involved. (E.g. a high school teacher that searches for po…

It would be hurtful because it would negatively impact your social relations since it's unusual to be so open and there are a number of legal sexual interests that many find distasteful or even revolting.

You make your own social circle and only you can choose who you spend time with. If you are someone open about sexuality, then chances are that you will surround yourself with people who find this natural.

I absolutely reject the normalization of puritan values you are pushing. There is nothing abnormal and unusual at all about being learned about human sexuality and discussing the subject with friends. Yes, it can be something that does not attract you. You cannot, however, make such claims and present them as facts.

Being open about sexuality does not mean that you are socially awkward. Of course you need to read the room first. I would never assault someone with facts about sexuality and find it extremely distasteful when someone does so myself. You can be open about your sexuality while staying polite and professional. Being socially revolting is a character trait and has nothing to do with sexuality.

For example, I would never talk about sexual encounters with anyone from my office. I will, however, demystify and explain the details of sexuality and kinks if I hear people spreading stereotypes.

Talking with your close social circle at a bar or a house-party is not the same game as talking with co-workers or strangers. Nor is talking about your personal sex life the same thing as discussing the subject of human sexuality.

I have been talking about sexuality a lot in this thread and I strongly doubt that I have been revolting or distasteful about it.

Re: Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and tracking on porn sites

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Post by isostatic »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #136
Swizec wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watch porn. Like everybody else on the planet. Why hide something so mundane? It’s like pretending you don’t poop. We all know you poop. You’re human. Reminds me of a failed study I read about. Researchers wanted to look into the effects of porn and couldn’t find a big enough control group. There simply aren’t enough people who don’t watch porn to make the study viable. PS: in terms of malware it’s religious sites…

I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though. They're both something many/most people don't like to advertise. Maybe they'd be even less happy to have details of either habit known. You might think that's silly, but it's far from unusual, it's the norm.

> I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though.

Many public restrooms in the U.S. barely have a door, and if they do it is so high off the ground and so short it barely offers any privacy at all

Re: Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and tracking on porn sites

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Post by ggg3 »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #136
Swizec wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watch porn. Like everybody else on the planet. Why hide something so mundane? It’s like pretending you don’t poop. We all know you poop. You’re human. Reminds me of a failed study I read about. Researchers wanted to look into the effects of porn and couldn’t find a big enough control group. There simply aren’t enough people who don’t watch porn to make the study viable. PS: in terms of malware it’s religious sites…

I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though. They're both something many/most people don't like to advertise. Maybe they'd be even less happy to have details of either habit known. You might think that's silly, but it's far from unusual, it's the norm.

your analogy is off. and the suggestion to use VPN is outright counterproductive.

people close the bathroom door when they poop. I guess they also close the door when they whatch porn.

using a vpn is akin to (car analogy time) trying to using a rental car while in public. you actually expose yourself to the rental company, who might be shadier than the people at the place you're showing up at, who can still see you trhu the window (analogy for your 3rd party cookies)

Re: Tracking Sex: Implications of widespread data leakage and tracking on porn sites

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Post by meruru »

mirimir wrote: post #150
meruru wrote: post #6

The hentai sites I tend to use are pretty good in this regard I think. Most of them even work with no JS. E.g. https://danbooru.donmai.us https://e-hentai.org Edit: I tried visiting them without adblock and I'm actually surprised they didn't even have ads.

Those are good sites. But cartoon porn with underage characters is illegal in some countries. And marginally so in the US, depending on attitude of the prosecutor. Also, I've come across some cartoon porn sites that are too disturbing to even risk describing here. Violence per se isn't so illegal, but underage sex + violence may well be.

>I've come across some cartoon porn sites that are too disturbing to even risk describing here

Those are the best ones :)

Well, you can be disturbed by the work if you want, but please don't discriminate against the people who are into it.

We're just human beings like everyone else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SD9-4pUPH0&t=130

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