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Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by dralley »

pnelson wrote: post #69
petepete wrote: post #10

I switched back to Firefox from Chrome earlier this year, and the experience has been very positive. It performs well, feels snappy, the dev tools are on par with Chrome's and everything feels right. The only negatives are that container tabs are still taking a bit of getting used to (why can't I have a 'Work' window in which all the new tabs are 'Work' tabs by default?) and the initial migration of passwords was a b…

I launch my browser with profiles instead of using containers. I have three at the moment: firefox --no-remote --profile "$XDG_CACHE_HOME/firefox/home" --class="browser-home" firefox --no-remote --profile "$XDG_CACHE_HOME/firefox/work" --class="browser-work" firefox --no-remote --profile "$(mktemp -d)"

Profiles and containers solve two different problems. Multiple profiles will keep websites that you only log into from one profile from leaving cookies that can be seen by the other profile, but containers prevent one website from leaving cookies that can be seen by any other website even on the same profile, and prevent that website from seeing any cookies other than their own.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by bgdnyxbjx »

latexr wrote: post #108

I’m tired of seeing “change to Firefox” arguments that never address its faults. Particularly on macOS, Firefox is unusable for many users — read this thread and any others on HN where Firefox is the topic, and you’ll find the same complaints: * Lack of AppleScript support (my main complaint, every other was lifted from other comments). * Lack of other basic features such as pinch-to-zoom. * Poor Keychain support. *…

It’s also really rough for me on Windows too. I try it every months a new release comes out and I don’t last a day.

Sites render badly (names colors and fonts look wrong on Firefox but look the same on Edge Chrome and Safari (macOS))

It hangs multiple times a day

Some heavy JS sites are much slower in FF than Chromium

It takes dev tools minutes to become responsive on the site I work on, while in Chromium they load up very quickly.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by [deleted] »

ken wrote: post #118
lkbm wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I still use Firefox, but I'm getting more and more irritated against it. I had to search the web in order to change the tile of empty tabs (no buttons, no context menu, only drag-n-drop from bookmarks). Who designed such an unguessable interface? Whenever I hear people complain about the settings being impossible to figure out, I always open them up and try. So I opened settings, which has a search input at the top…

I tried Firefox here just now to see if it's gotten any better since I last tried. I open the preferences window. Well, not quite. Instead of a preferences window like every other application I've ever used, it's some sort of webpage which opens in a new tab in the same window as the webpage I'm browsing. The controls are all completely custom, and the layout looks nothing like any preferences window I've seen since…

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Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by bgdnyxbjx »

grecht wrote: post #34

I recently tried Firefox on a Windows machine, and noticed that the font rendering was much, much worse than in Chrome or Opera, it looked almost bold and was hard to read. I guess it’s got something to do with subpixel hinting. Has anybody else noticed that?

Yes. Font weights are all messed up, and colors too. I’ve seen fonts that are barely readable on FF because the contrast ratio between the font color and background color is tiny, however it looks correct on all other browsers.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by criddell »

vehemenz wrote: post #2

I've given Firefox multiple chances, but we've had no progress with the MacOS performance issues for years. Also, no pinch-to-zoom? 2007 called, and it wants its browser back.

My big Firefox problem is the lack of media key support. I like to hit play or pause on my keyboard and have my streaming music start or top. It's probably the one big thing that makes me run Chrome all the time.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by chadlavi »

I use FF as my daily driver, and have for years.

But at work, I use Chrome. I bet most of you do, too. There's kind of just not another option.

For one thing, if you work on a product that has to meet accessibility standards (and if you don't: consider advocating for doing so anyway, it's good for users), FF's accessibility testing tools are frustratingly hard to use. Google's lighthouse is just way way more advanced.

And, my company (like most, if not all) _targets Chrome_, so I need to be doing most of my work in the target browser.

Personal browser choice is one thing, but products actually being built with non-Chrome browsers in mind is another. If people leave Chrome then discover that websites don't work as well (probably because those sites were built with Chrome in mind, and only ever tested in Chrome), they'll go back to Chrome.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

ZuLuuuuuu wrote: post #35

99% of "you should switch to Firefox" articles focus on the speed of the browser. I used Firefox since it was beta till Edge came out when everyone around me was asking "why are you not using Chrome?", and the thing is, I never had much problem with the speed or the crashes, so I never felt the need to switch to Chrome. Until WP died and I bought an Android phone. Then I switched to Chrome so that I get perfect synch…

> I think the reason why majority of people are using Chrome and Safari is not because of speed, it is because of synchronization,

I think most people use Chrome simply because they switched once and never looked back, especially when “lol other browsers use Chrome” is pretty much a meme.

Firefox Sync is great and I don't think it's lacking some key feature Google offers.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by illumin8 »

Firefox has way better privacy controls than Chrome, however, their track record on security is abysmal. In fact, a 0-day was just found last week targeting Coinbase employees.

I wish I could switch to Firefox for privacy reasons, but good security is table stakes and Firefox just doesn't have nearly the security credentials that Chrome does at the moment.

This definitely could change in the future, and I hope it does, but for now, I'm stuck in privacy hell because I can't compromise on security.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by Vektorweg »

Most argue to switch, because of Google's webRequest API changes in Chromium. Would like to remind you, that its not set in stone yet, especially whether Opera, Vivaldi and Microsoft will follow Google's plan.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

latexr wrote: post #108

I’m tired of seeing “change to Firefox” arguments that never address its faults. Particularly on macOS, Firefox is unusable for many users — read this thread and any others on HN where Firefox is the topic, and you’ll find the same complaints: * Lack of AppleScript support (my main complaint, every other was lifted from other comments). * Lack of other basic features such as pinch-to-zoom. * Poor Keychain support. *…

> And this article comes out just after reports of a 0-day exploit of Firefox on macOS

Chrome also has regular zero-days.

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