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Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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They provide updates to customers, but I'm under NDA with them.

I think you meant "paid customers". Pretty much all the people wrote here are "customers" one way or the other. By "updates" if you meant the message in GSuite Admin account notification section, it's no more insight than what's describing here: https://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en&v=issue&sid=2&iid=cc...

"You're not the customer; you're the product."

That, by the way, and surprisingly for me, it seems it's a quote from 1973:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/07/16/product/

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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This is especially chaotic for business GSuite users. Wonder if there's an offline/local cache service available for cloud-hosted systems, that would be a good middle-ground between local control and cloud-backed scale.

This is one of the many reasons why I don't use web apps. Google Calendar is just a dumb pipe connecting various instances of Fantastical for me.

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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It's amazing how many of these status pages don't actually work in many situations.

Wasn't there that time AWS had some outage, but the red-circle picture (for failure) was itself hosted on the unavailable AWS service, so their status page didn't show it as being unavailable? Or am I mis-remembering something/repeating an urban legend?

Yes, that was the S3 outage last year...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13756111

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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> What is going on there? Nothing but anecdote, but a lot of my friends at Facebook and Google are eyeing the exits. They’ve made good money and can afford to go somewhere better aligned with their values. They’re also each remarkably talented. These outages may be a reflection of that exodus. (Counterfactual: we started our careers at the same time and are nearing a natural switching point simultaneously.)

How do you think it relates to the failures exactly? Employee quality is down? The servers had someone manually monitoring them and they quit so now the servers are quietly on fire? What's the theory? Hint: companies at Google's scale do not have a single point of failure where employees slowly trickling in or out can impact their infrastructure in this way. You would see many more failures in this case. The tenure f…

Are you suggesting that quality of services offered is invariant of employee quality?

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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Writing your own little personal-use web apps can be really nice - not sure how common this is, but I highly recommend it. I did it for tasks, time tracking, invoicing, and personal finances, partly because Google and others kept "upgrading" and screwing up the UI & performance of the tools I was relying on. Each took about a day to write, and is customized exactly the way I like it; if I need a shortcut key, a weird…

What tools did you use to write the apps? I assume you had access to a good web toolkit?

I used Python / Flask / Apache for server stuff, MySQL & Sqlite for storage, and jQuery & vanilla Javascript for frontend. But I'm sure any web stack would work.

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I wouldn't be so sure about that. About 2yrs ago I booked a flight to my relatives for a Christmas trip and pasted the info into my Google calendar. Within hours, I got google calendar notices about not having confirmed my hotel reservation. It was VERY annoying as it was borderline deceptive, presented as if I'd already gone through the whole reservation process but failed to confirm. It was definitely a Google noti…

Seriously, multiple downvotes for an accurate recounting of an observed event contradicting a parent assertion, yet no one provides any new info? I don't expect any upvotes, but what am I missing here? Is there something against posting actual data and events?

What you're describing isn't an advertisement, so isn't at all relevant to the discussion.

It's well known (and not at all secret) that google will grab upcoming flight info from emails and put it into your calendar. But this info still isn't used for ad targeting.

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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I'm using a cheap Hostgator webhosting as a pretty good alternative to GMail, Calendar and Contacts. I synchronize my information between Thunderbird (Windows), Android (DavX and GMail app) and of course, they provide a nice web interface (Horde)

> they provide a nice web interface (Horde) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :) https://www.horde.org/apps/webmail/screenshots

It's not beautiful, but it actually looks nice IMO.

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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I moved off to Radicale years ago: https://radicale.org/ I use it with Thunderbird, and DavDroid (now DavX) to handle all my events and contacts (SMS contacts even show up correctly in Hangouts on Android phones) I realize GCal is rarely ever down, but they do harvest all your data to sell you shit. Here's a basic Dockerfile for Radicale if you want to try it out: https://github.com/sumdog/bee2/tree/master/dockerfile…

I'll add that Microsoft Outlook calendar works really well. or $69/year, Microsoft will sell you an Office 365 account, Outlook email and calendar, all their apps on-line, two desktop-installable licenses for their Office Suite, and 1 TB of OneDrive storage. It's a great deal.

And 1 hour of skype-to-phone a month.

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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Over an hour into the outage, still no word at all from Google on the status page apart from "We're investigating"

It seems with these "Big Provider" outages its a cascading failure across a few systems as opposed to a single point failure which makes debugging a bit harder.
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