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Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by Loughla »

audiometry wrote: post #77
snowwindwaves wrote: post #10

Do the job requirements really need to list ms excel and office three times?

And you need to be a "self starter"....

I hate those HR phrases for reasons that I believe are my own, maybe others share them.

Sure, it's a meaningless phrase and no one is going to say, "I'm not a self-starter, I hate figuring out what to do with my time I wish someone would just hand me a list of things". Or maybe very few people are going to do that.

What upsets me the most about phrases like 'self-starter' or 'motivated' or all that other HR shit, is that somewhere, someone (or more likely several someones) sat in a room and decided, consciously, that if they didn't say those words, that if they didn't flat out state that they wanted a self-starter, then the outcome would logically be they would only get lazy applicants.

Phrases like that are treating the world like it is full of people who would swallow their own socks, on accident, if only we were given the chance.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by magduf »

inetsee wrote: post #149

I worked for Lockheed Martin for more than a decade and I have many of the qualifications listed, including VAX experience and a special access clearance. Of course, Lockheed laid me off fourteen years ago and I retired three years ago, so I guess I won't be applying.

You should apply, and demand an insanely-high salary while pointing out that almost no one has VAX experience now.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by bwilli123 »

gibspaulding wrote: post #115
hestefisk wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No Microservices, no Kubernetes. Lame.

Think how much money we could make back selling skins for the control interfaces to pilots!

and for every 'kill' a dancing banana.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by magduf »

akiselev wrote: post #108
throwayEngineer wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Faster development time? Lower energy costs? Cooler? Faster?

It's a supersonic air superiority jet. The amount of energy needed and heat generated is a rounding error compared to the heat from supersonic flight and the powerplant's output (base fuel burn of thousands of lbs an hour). In the case of war birds, newer technology does not mean faster development time. In order to qualify electronics for a weapon that needs to be stealthy and resistant to electronic warfare you nee…

OK, but where are you going to find engineers with experience in those archaic technologies? And stuff breaks; where are you going to find equipment to replace it? The industry has moved on and is no longer making stuff like core memory, so you may not be able to acquire it even if you are willing to spend a lot.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by bencollier49 »

euler_angles wrote: post #97
metaphor wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd like to say that I'm astonished that modern aircraft still use the 1553 bus... What's wrong with 1553? It's reliable, battle-tested, and the latest revision C was published 28-Feb-2018. In contrast, the RS-232 PHY dates back to 1960, yet it's quite alive and well in modern commercial devices. As a consolation, be glad you've never had to deal with the monster that is STANAG 5516/MIL-STD-6016...if there was such…

As someone who has read all of 6016, doing so cost me a good chunk of my sanity. Never mind the fact that many areas of the standard don't matter because the manufacturers of equipment that use those areas made up their own way of doing things that isn't 6016 compliant. So you can comply to the standard, or you can actually work with platforms in the real world, but you can't do both.

Ah, that's like RFC 4210 for PKI!

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by jhawk28 »

jki275 wrote: post #124
dvdbloc wrote: post #56

So a couple of the comments here have been mentioning the high pay of people with specialties like this in the context of LM and other defense contractors. My impression from Glassdoor and general conversation with software developers has been the DCs pay pretty low for software in general compared to FAANG or even other engineering companies. Is it true that people with obscure specialties at places like LM can comm…

Defense contractors don't pay FAANG salaries. They can't, in general, because they're bound by labor categories and salaries set by the government, and the government isn't paying software engineers above what their GS software engineers get (max of about 128k in the DC area in general, if you're curious). There are a few jobs that can go a bit higher, but even they are capped around 150k as I recall. I don't know wh…

Not true. Billable labor rates are negotiated with the customer. The actual pay that an employee gets is based on market rates and the perceived value of the employee. The one may influence the other.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by euler_angles »

dvdbloc wrote: post #56

So a couple of the comments here have been mentioning the high pay of people with specialties like this in the context of LM and other defense contractors. My impression from Glassdoor and general conversation with software developers has been the DCs pay pretty low for software in general compared to FAANG or even other engineering companies. Is it true that people with obscure specialties at places like LM can comm…

In one of my past jobs I was a Level 3 Electronics Engineer for LM, and I made right at the middle of the pay band. It paid okay, but lower than someone doing my same job at the same place but working for Northrop Grumman made. I saw many people jump from LM to NGC just to get a big pay bump while doing the same work.

But LM is actively trying to reduce its number of Level 5, 6, and 7 engineers (the highest paybands on the technical career track). You would typically find a Level 5 engineer serving as an engineering technical team lead, a Level 6 as a site deputy chief engineer, and a Level 7 as a site chief engineer. A few years ago, LM Aeronautics offered all Level 5 and above engineers an early buyout/retirement and got over 1000 engineers to leave the company that way. Those engineers were largely not replaced, either in skills (hard to replace that level of expertise), billets (those jobs were not re-filled), or promotions (the sudden vacuum at the top end of the technical career pyramid was not filled by promoting large numbers of level 4 engineers to level 5, etc).

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by akiselev »

magduf wrote: post #154
akiselev wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a supersonic air superiority jet. The amount of energy needed and heat generated is a rounding error compared to the heat from supersonic flight and the powerplant's output (base fuel burn of thousands of lbs an hour). In the case of war birds, newer technology does not mean faster development time. In order to qualify electronics for a weapon that needs to be stealthy and resistant to electronic warfare you nee…

OK, but where are you going to find engineers with experience in those archaic technologies? And stuff breaks; where are you going to find equipment to replace it? The industry has moved on and is no longer making stuff like core memory, so you may not be able to acquire it even if you are willing to spend a lot.

We literally spend tens of billions of dollars a year keeping a significant fraction of the domestic agricultural industry afloat in the name of national security. We do the same with energy, oil, raw materials, and pretty much anything logistically critical in a war.

I think you vastly underestimate the lengths our military industrial complex goes to protect operational capabilities. The F22 is as much a beneficiary of those technologies as a platform for keeping them alive for future use.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by Kadin »

dotancohen wrote: post #14
aosmith wrote: post #2

Here's the backstory: http://web.archive.org/web/20100310163744/http://www.stsc.hi...

The way that the fine article was worded, it seems that the engineering team knew that they needed approximately 1.5M LOC before they has started. How could they have known that? Or is it simply poorly worded? > The ATF Team planned to develop approximately 1.5 million source lines of code, across more than 20 software development companies located throughout the U.S., Canada, and Europe.

Believe it or not, there are still cost-estimation methodologies that use LOC. You somehow go from the problem, to an estimated number of lines of code that will need to be written, and then you divide and multiply that out by the number of developers per hour and their hourly rate.

Someone decided that the task was about 1.5 MLOC and used that to drive the total contract value.

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