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Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by c0nducktr »

sdoering wrote: post #16
lcao wrote: post #10

Yes, the same browser that sent the raw browsing history of a portion of users to a third party. Talk about tracking! >Users who receive a version of Firefox with Cliqz will have their browsing activity sent to Cliqz servers, including the URLs of pages they visit. https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-i...

Or Pocket. Or hyperlink auditing. Or this f... up with certificates lately. I could go on. My problem is that every time I wanted to return to ff, Mozilla f...ed Up again. I feel like I am between a rock and a hard place with ff and Chrome.

Who gives a shit about Pocket? Fucking hell it;s just a bookmarking program. Don't like it? You don't have to use it! It doesn't do anything at all unless you use it.

Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by SquareWheel »

freeopinion wrote: post #41
sdoering wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Google's Chrome I know whom I give my privacy to. With Firefox I am one update away from being part of an experiment without my consent. I take the known evil every time.

I very much doubt that you know all the parties to whom you are constantly being sold by Google. You do realize that Google does not benefit from keeping your info to themselves, right?

>You do realize that Google does not benefit from keeping your info to themselves, right?

Of course they do. That's literally their business model, to use that data to serve more relevant ads. If they gave it to third parties then they would lose their biggest competitive advantage.

And really, they couldn't be any more clear about it: https://safety.google/privacy/ads-and-data/

>We do not sell your personal information to anyone.

If you're going to suggest they are lying about it, then please provide some evidence to support that argument.

Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by zobzu »

roca wrote: post #40
ziddoap wrote: post #34

I find it really interesting that when a company is making moves in a direction that benefits privacy of consumers, everyone takes the opportunity to shit on them for past mistakes or how it isn't good enough or why isn't it on by default or any other thing they can find to shit on. Yes, every single company has made mistakes. FireFox is no exception. Some of them were pretty egregious. Mistakes are - hopefully - an…

It also reduces incentives to actually make moves that benefit privacy. Because if the people who say they care about privacy aren't going to support you, why bother?

On point

Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by roca »

hartator wrote: post #117
ziddoap wrote: post #34

I find it really interesting that when a company is making moves in a direction that benefits privacy of consumers, everyone takes the opportunity to shit on them for past mistakes or how it isn't good enough or why isn't it on by default or any other thing they can find to shit on. Yes, every single company has made mistakes. FireFox is no exception. Some of them were pretty egregious. Mistakes are - hopefully - an…

The thing is there is disparity between the value they promote - privacy - and Mozilla actions. If privacy first was truly the Mozilla mission, we won't have Google Analytics on extension internal pages, the Mr Robot Ad, the Yahoo ad deal, and the ability to inject code remotely in your browser. Privacy seems to be a Mozilla concern but it's not a primary one.

Without the Yahoo ad deal, or "the ability to inject code remotely in your browser" i.e. automatic updates, or reliable telemetry from the majority of Firefox users, it would have been impossible to build a good browser.

Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by jake_the_third »

ziddoap wrote: post #34

I find it really interesting that when a company is making moves in a direction that benefits privacy of consumers, everyone takes the opportunity to shit on them for past mistakes or how it isn't good enough or why isn't it on by default or any other thing they can find to shit on. Yes, every single company has made mistakes. FireFox is no exception. Some of them were pretty egregious. Mistakes are - hopefully - an…

I'd be glad to forget Mozilla's past if they'd show that they have learned from them. The problem is that they haven't. In some cases, they've doubled down on them.

I say this as someone who uses firefox on every device he can.

Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by codsane »

geekamongus wrote: post #154

It seems that almost weekly, I am reminded why I love Firefox because of some new thing Mozilla is doing. A lot of good decisions have been coming from them lately.

I finally made the switch from Brave today and I'm never going back. Firefox is just as privacy-conscious, supports built-in tracker blocking, fingerprinting, and has full sync that Brave hasn't implemented yet.

Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by zobzu »

pabs3 wrote: post #141
eitland wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was said earlier today that because of American tax rules donation money cannot go to software development. So donation money goes to outreach and similar. Which is useful but doesn't fund Firefox. Someone please correct me if this is wrong.

I'm told that this is incorrect and that the FSF has been doing it for 34 years, the EFF does it, the ACLU has done it and others have even paid for proprietary software development (their apps etc).

i worked for mozilla, your donations pretty much do not go to coding firefox. there are side effects where it will affect code, or someone that gets employed by foundation that will now have money and free time to code for firefox for free, but its not like "your dollars go to hiring a sw engineer".

the donations are still useful though because if there were none mozilla foundation would die, and in turn, mozilla corporation would also die or be sold as its fully owned by the foundation

Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by skybrian »

ngold wrote: post #147
OJFord wrote: post #2

> You probably wouldn’t appreciate someone tracking your moves in real life. There’s no reason to accept it online. Great to read something like this on mozilla.org.

“A lot of the scripts that are run to enable tracking delay webpage load times while all these tracking scripts fire and run in the background,” said Peter Dolanjski, Firefox Product Lead. Over at Google they are trying to sell fingerprinting as a feature.

What do you mean? Link?

Re: Block Fingerprinting with Firefox

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Post by roca »

scarejunba wrote: post #96
roca wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also reduces incentives to actually make moves that benefit privacy. Because if the people who say they care about privacy aren't going to support you, why bother?

Nah, the people who care are happy. The problem is the guys who like to talk. It's the same with security. There's like an army of people who've learned about it from internet commentary exclusively and they bluster a lot as a substitute for competence.

Unfortunately Internet commentary trickles down to the press and actual users. "I heard Firefox is just as bad as Chrome" etc.
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