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Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by recursive »

jplayer01 wrote: post #145
octosphere wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does this mean that adblocking (and other safety-related) extensions will suddenly stop working on private windows, unless the user knows it has to go to the settings and enable them again? Looks like it, although if you don't know how to configure your extensions, then why even use them in the first place? Chrome has been doing this for a while now. You have to check the 'Allow in incognito' button for the extensi…

> Looks like it, although if you don't know how to configure your extensions, then why even use them in the first place? Because uBlock Origins et al. are incredibly useful for your average internet user who know fuck all about configuring extensions but benefit far more from it? What is this unnecessary elitism? Sane defaults are really important for people who don't know anything about the internet, much less priva…

They are being protected. Protected from malicious plugins sniffing their private browser activity.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by svnpenn »

pcunite wrote: post #144
svnpenn wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its a known issue (for 13 years) https://superuser.com/questions/1432983/-/1432993

This feature has changed from the last version I was using (62.02). The option "Never check for updates" is now missing.

Regardless, its currently not possible via the GUI as youve discovered. Im not happy about the situation but it is being actively worked on as of today.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by cpeterso »

kpremote wrote: post #133

Apologize if this is not the right place to ask for help. Two days ago when I began to develop a web site backend, a strange thing happened. Visiting "mydomainname.com" in Firefox v66 gave me back error message saying site not found, but visiting "mydomainname.com/index.html" (or index.php) would be fine, the content of that page was returned. After one hour struggle, I used another browser (and my phone) to open "my…

Does the error happen in a Private Browsing window? Maybe Firefox cached some "site not found" result it shouldn't have? This sounds more like a server configuration issue than a Firefox bug.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by ncmncm »

javagram wrote: post #31
ncmncm wrote: post #27

Running Firefox under Qubes has become increasingly frustrating, as tabs crash whenever (apparently?) they try to use WebGL, or anything that depends on access to a GPU. More and more, Firefox seems to depend on GPU access (or something?) and fails hard when it's not there.

Isn’t it possible to disable gpu in about:config?

about:config certainly has lots of settings to turn off, but I manifestly have not found enough of them, if indeed any number is enough.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by nerdponx »

zimbatm wrote: post #11

Firefox 67 also the first browser that ships with `prefers-color-scheme` (aka dark mode) after Safari. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/pref... And it does the right thing and disables the feature when enabling the resist fingerprinting option. I did a small survey and only very few websites have developed a second dark theme: https://zimbatm.com/DarkMode

I'll be interested to see all the clever ways this will be used to fingerprint users and browsers.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by agumonkey »

kalleboo wrote: post #54
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #38

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Ok, but I think the parent is wondering in what situation you'd want to store in the browser details of a site you'd visited, but still use private mode to "hide" that you'd visited? What data does the password use retain? IIRC password store retains the "time first used, time last used" and displays that visibly. In short what's the use-case or user story that fits this feature?

If I want to browse a site without it cluttering up my auto complete history. Say you want to order an engagement ring for your girlfriend but don't want WEDDING RINGS R US showing up when you type "r" in the address bar

it could still be an issue if your disk get inspected (or worse replicated).

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by vmarsy »

pavon wrote: post #148
backpackway wrote: post #9

> Save passwords in private browsing mode While this might be handy when visiting your favorite paid porn site, isn't this counter-intuitive? When I am in private mode, I expect nothing to be saved.

In addition to using private mode for visiting sites that I don't want saved in my history, I also use it as a poor mans sandbox for visiting sensitive sites (like my bank), to avoid potential cross-site-scripting attacks while visiting those sites. For this use-case, saving passwords is very useful. In fact, my biggest complaint with private mode in Firefox is that my preferred password manager plugin (bitwarden) do…

Why not use Firefox multi account containers[1] for this use case? Having one banking container or even one per bank would have the same effect, without the annoyances of private mode?

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by rehemiau »

jmiskovic wrote: post #53
copperx wrote: post #28

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You must mean OLED. And no, there are almost no desktop OLED monitors in the wild.

"LED display" term is commonly used for LCD displays where backlight is also actively controlled to increase dynamic range.

LCD displays where backlight is actively controlled probably still draw more power when displaying black than white

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by kpremote »

cpeterso wrote: post #153
kpremote wrote: post #133

Apologize if this is not the right place to ask for help. Two days ago when I began to develop a web site backend, a strange thing happened. Visiting "mydomainname.com" in Firefox v66 gave me back error message saying site not found, but visiting "mydomainname.com/index.html" (or index.php) would be fine, the content of that page was returned. After one hour struggle, I used another browser (and my phone) to open "my…

Does the error happen in a Private Browsing window? Maybe Firefox cached some "site not found" result it shouldn't have? This sounds more like a server configuration issue than a Firefox bug.

__Edit: I installed the lastest Firefox v67, the problem is gone. It works great.__

Thanks. no it's not in a private browsing window.

I also asked other people to visit the site(mydomainname.com) from their computers and phones, all worked fine.

The hour long struggle left me with painful memories. :) I never had issue like this previously in Firefox or other browsers. On that day, Chrome and IE worked without problem on my computer (Win 7 32bit), so the computer should not be the culprit.

That leaves Firefox v66 standing. I don't know why.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by pavon »

vmarsy wrote: post #157
pavon wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In addition to using private mode for visiting sites that I don't want saved in my history, I also use it as a poor mans sandbox for visiting sensitive sites (like my bank), to avoid potential cross-site-scripting attacks while visiting those sites. For this use-case, saving passwords is very useful. In fact, my biggest complaint with private mode in Firefox is that my preferred password manager plugin (bitwarden) do…

Why not use Firefox multi account containers[1] for this use case? Having one banking container or even one per bank would have the same effect, without the annoyances of private mode? [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

I tried it out, but it was much more structured than I'd like. I don't really want to have pre-defined a bunch of containers for each site that I want compartmentalized. I really like the ephemeral nature of private browsing where a single click gives me a fresh new container that I can use for whatever I want. Plus, when giving recommendations to family members, private browsing is more user-facing feature, and easier for them to use.
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