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This would make for a fun A/B test: "$15 + $5 extra" vs. "$20 - $5 discount". You might collect some evidence that people like getting a deal more than getting hit with an extra cost.
to get a design for <$30, your not going to notice a huge difference in acquisition for the $5
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You must have very cheap rent. If you don't ask for money for what you do, then you are saying that what you do is worthless. You probably don't actually believe that, and the only reason to sell your work for less than the most basic labor is because you don't know how to get paid properly. But customers see your pricing and conclude that designers do not need to be paid even the normal minimum for other kinds of wo…
Hm, how did "for slightly less money" morph into "you don't ask for money for what you do"?
Yes, you are still getting some money. But those jobs mentioned above are boring and poorly paid because they require little skill. They don't add a great deal of value to the business, and if someone quits or is promoted to do something more useful, it's easy to find and train another worker to replace them. Mostly what you're paying for is someone who will turn up on time every day and work for the length of a shift. There is not a huge wage differential based on experience because you can teach a completely inexperienced person the basics in a single day. So if you are selling graphic design services but charging the bare minimum required to hire a warm body, then "what you do" is essentially given away free.
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$5 out of $15 is 33.3% and $5 out of $20 is 25% I'd say thats fairly significant.
It depends on the context; if you offered me 1 penny or 2 pennies, I really wouldn't care. (even though it's a 100% difference)
Since 5 dollars is a denomination of US bills I think it has a significant psychological weight to considering it's value (for anyone familiar with US currency). You think of $5 and you know what it is,what it's worth to you, what you'd spend it on.
This might be a hold over from handling cash, where that $5 spent on a service might be competing with your lunch or bus ticket. I suppose dealing increasingly with debit/credit cards in place of small cash transactions where it's "just $5 in your entire bank account" will likely lessen this effect.
Eventually, he turns a profit with an automated muse and everyone is happy.
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This is actually a decent wage in Brazil. When I lived there (15 years ago) minimum wage was equivalent to $100 a month.
But it's completely different if the person works in the IT industry. I do live in Brazil (Sao Paulo), and I can't hire a GOOD web designer for my company paying less than $3.000 USD/month (R$ 5K). Here, an experienced designer can easily ask $5K USD/month for working fulltime.
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Looks like he's in Brazil from his paypal page. Not sure about the cost of living there, but that's probably a decent wage for a lot of people there.
This is actually a decent wage in Brazil. When I lived there (15 years ago) minimum wage was equivalent to $100 a month.
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I'd rather do something I enjoy for slightly less money than get an office job or flip burgers.
You must have very cheap rent. If you don't ask for money for what you do, then you are saying that what you do is worthless. You probably don't actually believe that, and the only reason to sell your work for less than the most basic labor is because you don't know how to get paid properly. But customers see your pricing and conclude that designers do not need to be paid even the normal minimum for other kinds of wo…
Anecdotally, I spent 2 years 'flipping burgers', and then started out charging $20/hr doing consulting work. I was happy and my clients were happy. Over time, I slowly raised rates and haven't looked back since.
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You must have very cheap rent. If you don't ask for money for what you do, then you are saying that what you do is worthless. You probably don't actually believe that, and the only reason to sell your work for less than the most basic labor is because you don't know how to get paid properly. But customers see your pricing and conclude that designers do not need to be paid even the normal minimum for other kinds of wo…
> If you don't ask for money for what you do, then you are saying that what you do is worthless. "Um, what?" --Every open source developer, ever.
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Hm, how did "for slightly less money" morph into "you don't ask for money for what you do"?
Because it's "slightly less money" than working in an office or flipping burgers (which a previous commenter suggested would be more economically sustainable kinds of employment). Yes, you are still getting some money. But those jobs mentioned above are boring and poorly paid because they require little skill. They don't add a great deal of value to the business, and if someone quits or is promoted to do something mo…
That sure sounds like a reasonable statement.
In your response, you stated that "you don't ask for money for what you do" and then proceeded to knock down that strawman.
Working without any pay at all is not the same as doing something you enjoy for "slightly less" than you would accept to do something you don't enjoy.