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Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by lotsofpulp »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #99
lotsofpulp wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a finance thing, and it doesn't make sense to continue using it, when you can use k = thousands, M = millions, B = billions, T = trillions, Q = quadrillions and remove all the ambiguity.

I think you meant k = 1000, M = 1000^2, G = 1000^3, T = 1000^4, P = 1000^5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix

I'm not referring to the metric prefixes. Other than "k" which is well known and commonly used as meaning thousand, I doubt most people would be familiar with the other prefixes. It would seem easier to just use the first letter of million, billion, etc., words which are known by most everyone.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by slouch »

alimhaq wrote: post #45

This is probably an unpopular opinion here but I don't think these meat substitutes are sustainable for long term health in humans...our bodies are clearly designed to consume meat (especially apparent when you compare our bodies to those of our mostly herbivore relatives) and by extension we need these nutrients to thrive (not just survive, mind you). I understand the incentive for people to go vegan but people shou…

What other herbivores cook meat before eating it? How do you feel about the amount of kale that goes into one kale smoothie? Were our bodies designed for all these radio waves? The ship has sailed. Evolution will figure it out.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by bklyn11201 »

ousta wrote: post #94
PerfectElement wrote: post #27

I've been vegan for 15 years, and I've tried all sorts of veggie burgers and mock meats available. Some of them are good, but pretty easy to tell they are not meat. When I first had the Beyond Burger last year (just plain with 2 thin slices of bread) it brought back a very strong memory of how meat used to taste. I wonder if most meat eaters would be able to tell it's not meat on a blind test. I'm curious to try the…

tried the impossible burger. It is far from a good quality meat burger. probably near macdonalds quality.

I agree, it's not a life-changing burger, but it's quite a good substitute and both filling and attractive. This picture from Kenji Lopez-Alt shows how attractive it is to compared to processed beef patties:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv7CnCKB5Sw/

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by UI_at_80x24 »

soared wrote: post #101
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #41

>Have committed to $22MM of protein I've never understood this convention and it always causes my brain to short-circuit when trying to read it. Is that $22 Million Monies, or $22 MegaMillions I'm assuming that the shorthand is supposed to be read as: $22 Million So then I spend the next 5 minutes stuck in a feedback loop of what the hell am I supposed to be thinking.

All these replies are from devs and the like who aren't used to how everyone else uses this notation. Everyone in the business world uses MM, it just looks weird because you're not used to it. Different industries use different notations. If you came to my workplace and used a single 'M' everyone would have the same response here but inverted - how using a single M makes no sense and is inaccurate. I work in advertis…

haha, I completely agree with what you said and I know it was industry-specific term. But despite knowing that, and _STILL_ knowing it meant "$22Million" I still argue with my brain when a little voice says "Mega Millions?"

I was hoping I wasn't the only one, and happy to see a vigorous conversation start because of it. (I inherit Karma in a MLM feedback-loop right?)

>I work in advertising where "CPM" is a common metric (cost per milli).

That's just silly, _everybody_ knows it stands for cents-per-mile, and how truck drivers are paid. (jk)

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by codezero »

gamegoblin wrote: post #109
codezero wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting take. I've always said Impossible tastes more like meat, but has a bad texture match, and Beyond tastes less like meat but has a better texture. With that said, I think the flavor and quality of Beyond is higher, for me. Impossible still hovers around low-grade, poor texture ground beef. I want them both to be successful because the more options we have the better. I think Impossible is likely to be more…

Have you tried the Impossible 2.0? It's noticeably better. I agree that preparation has a huge impact on quality. I once had an Impossible 1.0 that was so badly prepared I ate 1/3 of it and then gave up. I am wondering if Impossible will come up with a specialized cooker (imagine a waffle press sort of thing, but for burger patties) that will automate temperature management and cook time in order to reduce variabilit…

I’ll have to double check. I had an impossible burger recently but didn’t see the version. It was similar enough to previous ones that it’s safe to assume it was 1.0.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by ewhanley »

AznHisoka wrote: post #49
vincentmarle wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

M is the Roman numeral for 1000, so MM is a thousand thousands, in other words a million.

It is an awkward notation. Nobody says 100M for $100,000, they say 100K. So why should 100 million be 100MM? It forces people to pause, and think unnecessarily.

@overcast Interesting! US-based? How would you denote 1000 bbl/day? kbbl vs mbbl

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by [deleted] »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #54
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #41

>Have committed to $22MM of protein I've never understood this convention and it always causes my brain to short-circuit when trying to read it. Is that $22 Million Monies, or $22 MegaMillions I'm assuming that the shorthand is supposed to be read as: $22 Million So then I spend the next 5 minutes stuck in a feedback loop of what the hell am I supposed to be thinking.

It's a finance thing, and it doesn't make sense to continue using it, when you can use k = thousands, M = millions, B = billions, T = trillions, Q = quadrillions and remove all the ambiguity.

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Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by sammycdubs »

I've seen this said before (I forget from who), but I honestly think that over the next few decades meat is going to go through a similar transition to tobacco.

I don't think it's ever going to disappear completely, but I think it's going to become something most people only enjoy once in a while if at all. I also think that meat consumption is going to be viewed in a significantly more negative light over time.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by Slippery_John »

redisman wrote: post #116
codezero wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's definitely a bit of an arms race going on, and it's unfortunate. I find both products to be very different, and we could stand to have some diversity in the area of alternative meat products. Off the top of my head, in terms of commercial availability I've seen them at: Beyond: - Safeway (both meat patties, and frozen boxed crumbles) - Del Taco - Carls Jr. - Veggie Grill Impossible: - Umami Burger - White Cas…

> There's definitely a bit of an arms race going on, and it's unfortunate. I don't follow, how is competition bad in this case? Sounds like the opposite to me.

I think they're afraid that one brand will be so much more successful that the other goes away. Each brand has different flavor, texture, and nutritional profiles so if any of those are particularly important to you then it's hard to make do with one of the other options.

For example, both Beyond Meat and Quorn sell meatless "beef" crumbles. Each has a noticeably different flavor and fairly different nutrition (The Quorn has significantly fewer calories, but less protein for example). I would be sad if either one went out of business because I use them differently.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by mexicancoff33 »

Maximus9000 wrote: post #60
balls187 wrote: post #40

pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt, succinic acid, acetic acid, non-GMO modified food starch, cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, beet juice extract (for color), ascorbic acid (to maintain color), annatto extract (for color), citrus fruit extract (to maintain quality), vegetable…

Have you ever gone to a baseball game and ordered a hotdog? What's in that hotdog? My guess is most people don't ask. They're always so damn curios to know whats in a veggie burger... but they don't give a damn about what's in a hotdog.

I certainly don't order that disgusting hotdog.

I will also be avoiding any "burger" that is sugar loaded with maltodextrin.

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