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Re: Netlify Dev

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Can anyone explain the elevator pitch of Netlify to me? I know it's become quite popular in the last couple of years and I can't figure out why. I don't doubt that it's good at what it does, but it seems to do the same thing as any number of services. For example, I see a lot of people talk about it for static sites. But you get free static sites through GitHub, nearly free static sites on Amazon S3. What does Netlif…

It's hard to explain. Unlike any other product I've ever used it just works. It's like hosting + CI/CD + CMS features all in one. Deploying just works, there's hardly any configuration you have to do. I used to put all of my static sites and simple applications on DO droplets, but Netlify just makes things much easier way easier (if you can believe it). It's like a PaaS for static sites on steroids.

I like to think of these things as "removing the sand".

It's coarse, rough, irritating and gets everywhere. It's the stuff that makes each tiny step that little bit more annoying. Checking how to set permissions on S3, looking up how to make sure things are redirecting to HTTPS properly, setting up a pre-live stage, etc. Each thing is pretty minor, each tiny interaction not a major deal, but together it's annoying. Netlify has not been annoying.

Re: Netlify Dev

#152

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Zeit Now also seems to target serverless functions, not stateful applications.

Yeah but with Zeit Now the serverless functions can actually serve the application, so if you need SSR with dynamic data you're able to, whereas with netlify it's static html being served with optional AWS style lambda functions. For instance Zeit can host a standard node server to serve your application if necessary https://zeit.co/docs/v2/deployments/official-builders/node-j...

You can do the same with Netlify functions. Here's an example:

https://github.com/netlify-labs/netlify-functions-express

Re: Netlify Dev

#153
Netlify is amazing:

1. Free 2. Good support 3. Custom domains with SSL 4. Takes care of most important backend stuff (forms and webhooks) 5. Functions (Lambda with zero config needed) 6. Abstracts server stuff like [redirects](https://www.netlify.com/docs/redirects/)

Lambda and redirects are the best. I can just put my scripts in a folder and they automagically work.

In my LinkedIn profile my website address is not clickable, so people are copying it to browser. This gives me bogus source data, but with Netlify I can do a one-liner:

`/li /?utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=profile`

If you go to [patrykkalinowski.com/li](https://patrykkalinowski.com/li) from my LI profile, you'll end up on patrykkalinowski.com/?utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=profile

Zero javascript redirects, zero nginx config, zero S3 settings - one line in text file, git push and I'm done!

Re: Netlify Dev

#154

Netlify is amazing: 1. Free 2. Good support 3. Custom domains with SSL 4. Takes care of most important backend stuff (forms and webhooks) 5. Functions (Lambda with zero config needed) 6. Abstracts server stuff like [redirects]( https://www.netlify.com/docs/redirects/ ) Lambda and redirects are the best. I can just put my scripts in a folder and they automagically work. In my LinkedIn profile my website address is not…

No markdown support for links. Typically you would handle them like you would a footnote[0].

[0]: https://google.com

Re: Netlify Dev

#155
Netlify is just fantastic! I reluctantly checked them out last year, and am now hosting 3 SPAs there. By the far the most painless platform I’ve used, with a generous free tier.

Thanks to the team and great work as always!

Re: Netlify Dev

#157
post #50

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I get this experience on my own VPS with Dokku, mostly. I thought Netlify’s big bonus is their CDN and pricing?

I get this experience using non-netlify-specific tools and processes already. I've also been doing this type of work professionally for 15+ years. If I was just starting out today, netlify would be a huge time saver, at the cost of a ton of knowledge you gain doing it yourself. "But wait...there's more". If you're a new to development or operations, you might be tempted to use something like netlify. If your project…

> But... if your project is a hobby or non-serious-revenue-generating endeavor: please please please do it yourself. Learn apache syntax, learn nginx syntax, explore why `setenforce 0` is for hacky amateurs. You'll learn marketable skills, that will help you in your future career endeavors.

One of the many hats I wear is to do a lot of those things[0]. I setup nginx inside a docker container to act as a reverse proxy for an http api living in another container, and now that's done but it's time to put on another hat and train users on the new core platform we're using, but now it's time for the legacy maintenance hat, but this hat is on fire, and...

If I'm working on a project for fun, I want to have as few barriers as possible, because I'm already facing an uphill motivational battle after a long day at work, or on a weekend where I just want to relax.

[0]: I did have to lookup `setenforce`, because I've never had reason to disable SELinux.

Re: Netlify Dev

#158
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because functions are small self-contained stateless bits of code, they don't need much testing by themselves. You need to test them with the services they are using and replicating your whole cloud infrastructure locally is nearly impossible.

Maybe they'll tell me I'm wrong, but Netlify strikes me as not targeting people who need a "whole cloud infrastructure" (since they don't offer many services), but a static site with a few simple backend functions.

Cloud be, yes.

Re: Netlify Dev

#160
based on the comments sounds like a great framework, but wow what a bad name. sounds like some kind of mix between bug zapper and a light beer? maybe life insurance also..
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