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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by votepaunchy »

pjc50 wrote: post #142
acqq wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The judge said she will remain jailed until she testifies or until the grand jury concludes its work." Wow. Not even some specific number of months or anything. Appears not as a punishment but a blackmail. (edit: yes I miss the right word for this is, there is certainly a better one, I'd be happy to read a better one; edit2: right, extortion, thanks).

What happened to that whole fifth amendment thing?

> What happened to that whole fifth amendment thing?

Hence the immunity.

“But the Fifth Amendment doesn’t provide an absolute right to remain silent and not answer any questions. Rather, it protects people from having to answer incriminating questions about themselves.”

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/immunity-exchange-te...

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by belorn »

chx wrote: post #74
falcrist wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If nothing else, his persistence has been fairly impressive. I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though. Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour".

He became something else as well. Maybe he always was, maybe he turned into a Russian pawn but by now there seems to be a huge amount of suspicious things pointing him working with Russia. This lists like six such things https://www.salon.com/2017/01/07/donald-trump-julian-assange... This one https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/303172-pus... is particularly damaging because one of the arguments of the "…

Being declared a terrorist, drone target, suggestion to thrown him into guantanamo, and talks about death penalty, it likely biased him a bit against the US and in particular against the former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

I would not expect anyone to continue be neutral during such state of affair.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by StavrosK »

Theodores wrote: post #113
Bombthecat wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And germany is thinking about creating laws to make the life of whistlelowers easier... Just let that sink in..

au contraire! There is EU wide whistleblower protection on its way. The motivation is to save money. More details: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019... The quote in the article mentions Cambridge Analytica so political whistleblowing could be part of the deal: "Recent scandals such Cambridge analytica or Lux Leaks have demonstrated the importance of whistleblowers. That is why we need to pr…

You seem to be agreeing with the GP, so why do you say "au contraire"?

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by kome »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #149
sschueller wrote: post #44

Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

Did they change anything? Did anything they do matter in the end?

Yes, and by a great deal.

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Post by ryanlol »

falcrist wrote: post #6
fastball wrote: post #2

I still can't believe he has been there for 7 years.

If nothing else, his persistence has been fairly impressive. I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though. Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour".

Partisan? Hasn't he always been quite transparent about his desire to destroy the US?

If Assange is partisan who is he partisan for?

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by ryanlol »

threeseed wrote: post #133
geowwy wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His choice is either stay in the embassy or extradition to the US where he will face a very severe penalties, possibly the death sentence. Technically he's not being held against his will. But the reality is he can't leave.

> But the reality is he can't leave Of course he can. He can walk out the door right now. He chooses not to leave because he doesn't want to deal with the consequences of what he has done. You may not agree with that but it's an undeniable fact.

I've been to prisons where you can simply walk out of the door, are those not prisons?

Yours is the weirdest argument imaginable, he's forced to stay in the embassy or he'll be arrested. That is exactly how essentially all western prisons work, some of them might throw minor obstacles on the way to prevent you from walking out but it's rarely that hard.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by Reelin »

sschueller wrote: post #39
geeareyou2019 wrote: post #17

Keep up the great Wikileaks! “In one of the messages, sent at 6:35 p.m. on the day of the election, Wikileaks wrote, "Hi Don if your father ‘loses’ we think it is much more interesting if he DOES NOT conceed [sic] and spends time CHALLENGING the media and other types of rigging that occurred—as he has implied that he might do." Wikileaks reportedly claimed contesting the election could help his father further delegit…

"created: 33 minutes ago" just to post this?

It shouldn't surprise you in the slightest that people don't want their regular accounts associated with political hot potatoes. HN in particular has a lot of accounts which link back to semi-professional personas on GitHub, SE, etc.

It is a depressingly low effort and poorly articulated comment though.

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