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Anyone know if they're involved in selling metadata/data?
Microsoft or Evernote?
today the answer is always Yes.
Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
#152We contacted Evernote in 2012, 13, 14 begging them to try CRDT based synchronisation. First, it might have fixed their sync glitches. Second, that would make the client a full copy of the data, very much like a git repo. You can't lose data that way. Third, that would be a step towards collaborative features. We got brushed off. We used personal connections as well as official channels. In 2014 we annoyed them so muc…
Who is "we"?
Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
#154I have over a thousand notes in Evernote. One day I noticed that one was missing shortly after I created it. Eventually I discovered that the convenient new-note shortcut was failing every time with a database corruption error - but the error only appeared in a system log I was unaware of. There was no indication to the user that the notes were failing. To this day I have no idea how many notes I lost due to this bug…
I cannot speak highly enough of Tiddlywiki. I prefer shaping my wiki (https://philosopher.life/) to relying upon Evernote.
Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
#155I haven't seen too many people mentioning the onslaught of Microsoft One Note in developing a great note-taking tool, that syncs well in the cloud, and integrates with several of their other tools like Word and Outlook. Personallly, as a early Evernote User, once One Note came out for Mac, I switched. And then getting a job somewhere where we used Windows PCs, just solidified it for me, and I never found the need to…
OneNote is the closest thing I've seen to a Google Notebook replacement. I really hope they keep improving this product. It's great.
Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
#156We contacted Evernote in 2012, 13, 14 begging them to try CRDT based synchronisation. First, it might have fixed their sync glitches. Second, that would make the client a full copy of the data, very much like a git repo. You can't lose data that way. Third, that would be a step towards collaborative features. We got brushed off. We used personal connections as well as official channels. In 2014 we annoyed them so muc…
Who is "we"?
Me and the other guy. I am Victor Grishchenko, PhD. At the time, we had a CRDT based sync engine which we white-labelled to Yandex. We had been eager to work with Evernote cause all their sync issues have been very clear to us.
These days, even Apple Notes syncs with CRDTs... at the time, it was cutting-edge.
P.S. Please never let me feel that my response is more polite than necessary.
Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
#157I find it weird that no one is mentioning that this article is written by an EN competitor.
I've been an EN user since 2010. Yes they have had some problems and I have even tried to jump ship (as recently as last fall when I gave DEVONThink a go). I keep coming back though. I've yet to find anything that touches it in terms of features and functionality. Only ones that come close are OneNote and Notion. OneNote is fine but I don't like they way it handles organizing data. I prefer a nested hierarchy which I can get with tags in EN. Notion covers most of the bases but its an electron app and its SLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW if you have a lot of notes in it. Takes 30 seconds for the mobile app to open and be useful for instance. Thats a dealbreaker for me. I need to be able to get a piece of knowledge on the go fast. If you can't give me what I want in less than a few seconds you go in the bin.
EN has the advantage of being available on Mac and Windows (and Linux w/ Wine), allows you to capture from literally anywhere and has a fantastic and fast search. You can encrypt notes. You can schedule notes. You can make todo's. Capture emails. Scan documents (and then find them with OCR). It's got a very usable api to integrate it into any part of your workflow they don't cover. I dunno, I've tried em all and EN is still the best IMO.
ps. I've been using org mode lately too. That _might_ be what finally gets me off EN but the mobile experience just isn't there yet. Beorg (iOS) is great but still pretty short on features. Especially capture and search.
Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
#158After I noticed that their forum thread [1] about requesting LaTeX-style math notes was almost as old as my Evernote Premium subscription, I came to the conclusion that this is just a ripoff. I paid all these years only to keep my access and for the occasional design update but the core experience stagnated. Dropbox Paper already provided a better note-taking experience and with Notion.so I finally found a full repla…
I think I post this every time I read something about Dropbox Paper but I think it's important: Every note is shared by default when you know the URL, nothing is private by default. You explicitly need to make every single note private so no one can access it. I really want to use paper but I think this really sucks IMHO.
Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
#159Also i know, at least for me, that when i find myself wanting to take notes most is whenever its a spur of the moment kind of idea that i dont want to lose. In that kind of scenario, i find that a small notebook and pencil is still superior to an app simply because i don't have to think too much about the process of getting myself into a position where i can actually record the idea. Its just too hard to get into the…
Another vote here for paper and pencil for notes on the go.
One thing I like about paper and pencil is that I tend to have a better signal to noise ratio in my to-dos and notes. I guess the extra effort to write encourages me to trim the fat. I also can't check my mail from my note pad, so there's that.
Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential
#160I find it weird that no one is mentioning that this article is written by an EN competitor. I've been an EN user since 2010. Yes they have had some problems and I have even tried to jump ship (as recently as last fall when I gave DEVONThink a go). I keep coming back though. I've yet to find anything that touches it in terms of features and functionality. Only ones that come close are OneNote and Notion. OneNote is fi…
Every time I find a new Evernote competitor, I try it out. I keep thinking that it must be easy to top Evernote, which I have various complaints about.
I'm always back to Evernote within a week.
Notion and Joplin were my most recent attempts.