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French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by cpeters10 »

vanderZwan wrote: post #142
mateo1 wrote: post #117

Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. Yes, for now governments only caught up to DNS level blocking, but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses.

> Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. This just reminds of how in the late nineties and early 2000s we used to have torrent sites for music enthusiasts with an archive of all the different versions, editions, bootlegs, all painstakingly added and catalogued, representing tens if not hundreds of man-hours wo…

Perhaps someone should painstakingly make a catalog of the internal web stacks of SV companies for people who love code.

I'm sure that "library of Alexandria" would be burned quite quickly.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by class4behavior »

mateo1 wrote: post #117

Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. Yes, for now governments only caught up to DNS level blocking, but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses.

>(...) but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses.

The EU just passed the directive for the new copyright package which further cements the status quo (the two often mentioned articles are just the worst of it), so don't expect any progress if people don't start to elect more progressive politicians.

The projections for the EU election show that the shares of the fractions won't change much, beside a slight shift to the right. The composition of the Conservative wing, however, will become more Euroskeptic and nationalistic.

And from an economic perspective, I don't see any big shift towards more consumer-oriented party programs, while the right-wing generally tends to be liberal(classical), or neoliberal even, anyway.

P.S.: To avoid DNS blocking, use a DNS server from a private party; and since in some countries such data streams are manipulated, use encrypted DNS to ensure integrity. https://dnscrypt.info/faq

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by hestefisk »

larkeith wrote: post #54

How difficult would it be to host one or more IPFS nodes with the files on Sci-Hub (and a directory thereof)? My understanding is that would be infeasible to block, and quite probably cheaper to host, as oft-requested papers would get mirrored.

Would be an interesting experiment / use case for IPFS.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by yaleman »

cm2187 wrote: post #64
larkeith wrote: post #54

How difficult would it be to host one or more IPFS nodes with the files on Sci-Hub (and a directory thereof)? My understanding is that would be infeasible to block, and quite probably cheaper to host, as oft-requested papers would get mirrored.

If you have access to a cloud service/servers, you don’t even need to do that. Your server is on the other side of these blocks, just rent a VM for a few minutes, RDP/VNC into it and surf the web without any ISP constraint.

An IPFS node would help significantly more people with a much lower overhead, however. :)

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by GorgeRonde »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #138
GorgeRonde wrote: post #99

Bought a book on GooglePlay once. Wanted to download it as an ePub. ePub wasn't available due to a technical error on Google's side (apparently affecting all epubs). Had to use Adobe Digital Editions to "download" it only to figure out the download wasn't available. + DRMs (i.e. can't read the ebook on a smartphone). Went to libgen instead, will never buy a book on GooglePlay again.

How long did the ePub error last?

Seems like it is gone now (you still have to juggle with DRMs though). However when it happened I searched for the error code and found some posts on Google forums. They were 6 months to 1 year old, with no provided solution.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by Shivetya »

aorth wrote: post #147
jjeaff wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose the gov could ip block 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 just as easily.

Is "too big to block" a thing yet? Services like Signal were certainly relying on this via their domain fronting technique.

they certainly are not too big to fine.

that would be the end result, put the onus on the DNS providers. who needs to China to disrupt the net when the West is just fine doing it on its own.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by ptidhomme »

emptybits wrote: post #18

And with this news, millions of French now become aware of these tempting sites they wouldn't otherwise even know about. (And Google methods of alternative access.) #streisandeffect

Could be, yes. Although I'm always struck how the French are just unknowledgeable of huge swathes of the english-speaking internet (me included, sometimes). Because it is english-speaking, for that matter.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by GGfpc »

vanderZwan wrote: post #142
mateo1 wrote: post #117

Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. Yes, for now governments only caught up to DNS level blocking, but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses.

> Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. This just reminds of how in the late nineties and early 2000s we used to have torrent sites for music enthusiasts with an archive of all the different versions, editions, bootlegs, all painstakingly added and catalogued, representing tens if not hundreds of man-hours wo…

What.cd going down was terrible for that exact reason.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by agentphil »

cpeters10 wrote: post #151
vanderZwan wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. This just reminds of how in the late nineties and early 2000s we used to have torrent sites for music enthusiasts with an archive of all the different versions, editions, bootlegs, all painstakingly added and catalogued, representing tens if not hundreds of man-hours wo…

Perhaps someone should painstakingly make a catalog of the internal web stacks of SV companies for people who love code. I'm sure that "library of Alexandria" would be burned quite quickly.

Doesn't https://builtwith.com do that already?
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