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Apple's iPhone Shipments Plunge in China as Huawei Tightens Grip

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Re: Apple's iPhone Shipments Plunge in China as Huawei Tightens Grip

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Quite the contrary, hardly any performance difference for 90% of the consumers not playing Fortnite on their phones. No one cares about lack of updates on Android phones, only geeks like us. In fact many consumers disable automatic updates with fear that an update will bring a totally new UI to their favourite apps, forcing them to relearn where everything has gone to. Finally, by being much cheaper means that when t…

Like I said below, have you used the 2018 Moto G and compared it to an iPhone that's three years older -- I have. It's downright sluggish doing simple things.

One of the guys at the office last year was quite happy for sending photos, sms and doing phone calls.

Not everyone wants a computer on their pocket.

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Yes, and I have found a minority in a planet where 80% of the world is dominated by Android and a large part of the population can only dream to have a salary comparable to an iPhone cost.

And from a profitability standpoint, the people who are buying $60 Android phones aren't making anyone money besides the carriers. Why go after an unprofitable segment of the market?

Because eventually there aren't any buyers left willing to spend buckloads of money as Apple is slowing experiencing the mobile version of PC vs Mac.

Their back account might hold for a couple of decades to come, but eventually they will need to come up with something else.

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And from a profitability standpoint, the people who are buying $60 Android phones aren't making anyone money besides the carriers. Why go after an unprofitable segment of the market?

Because eventually there aren't any buyers left willing to spend buckloads of money as Apple is slowing experiencing the mobile version of PC vs Mac. Their back account might hold for a couple of decades to come, but eventually they will need to come up with something else.

Yes because phones last forever.

Last I checked, they haven't run out of people to sell Macs to and they have been around for 35 years....u

Or are you saying that the "current generation of phones should be enough for anyone", Bill Gates style[1]?

And if Apple experience the PC vs Mac “problem” that seems to be a good thing. Apple is the only company making any serious money selling computers while the rest of the PC industry is struggling trying to chase after a few pennies. Apple just reported its highest revenue ever for a quarter selling Macs.

[1] Before, I get "well, actuallied", I know there is no proof he ever said that.

Re: Apple's iPhone Shipments Plunge in China as Huawei Tightens Grip

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post #151

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Like I said below, have you used the 2018 Moto G and compared it to an iPhone that's three years older -- I have. It's downright sluggish doing simple things.

One of the guys at the office last year was quite happy for sending photos, sms and doing phone calls. Not everyone wants a computer on their pocket.

My son complained that he could barely use Uber or the various streaming apps.

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One of the guys at the office last year was quite happy for sending photos, sms and doing phone calls. Not everyone wants a computer on their pocket.

My son complained that he could barely use Uber or the various streaming apps.

Your son's use case isn't an universal one, as mentioned, my work colleague doesn't do nothing of that.

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Because eventually there aren't any buyers left willing to spend buckloads of money as Apple is slowing experiencing the mobile version of PC vs Mac. Their back account might hold for a couple of decades to come, but eventually they will need to come up with something else.

Yes because phones last forever. Last I checked, they haven't run out of people to sell Macs to and they have been around for 35 years....u Or are you saying that the "current generation of phones should be enough for anyone", Bill Gates style[1]? And if Apple experience the PC vs Mac “problem” that seems to be a good thing. Apple is the only company making any serious money selling computers while the rest of the PC…

Apple is still around because NeXT did an inverted take over, they were at the edge of declaring bankruptcy after the continuous failure to create a successor to MacOS.

Macs are a tiny percentage of current business, and only at reach of first world countries. Around 10% world wide.

Phones don't last forever, which is another reason not to spend diamonds on them.

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Yes because phones last forever. Last I checked, they haven't run out of people to sell Macs to and they have been around for 35 years....u Or are you saying that the "current generation of phones should be enough for anyone", Bill Gates style[1]? And if Apple experience the PC vs Mac “problem” that seems to be a good thing. Apple is the only company making any serious money selling computers while the rest of the PC…

Apple is still around because NeXT did an inverted take over, they were at the edge of declaring bankruptcy after the continuous failure to create a successor to MacOS. Macs are a tiny percentage of current business, and only at reach of first world countries. Around 10% world wide. Phones don't last forever, which is another reason not to spend diamonds on them.

https://sixcolors.com/post/2018/07/apple-q3-results-charts-c...

The Mac had 5.3 Billion in revenue last quarter.

The Mac by itself had higher revenue than McDonalds. If the Mac were a standalone business it would by itself have higher revenue than all but 110 companies in the Fortune 500.

And you seem to think there is actually profit by chasing after pennies in none first world countries.

Why the Mac is still around doesn't matter...

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In the US, maybe :)

What are you talking about?

> it's easy to find iPhones belonging to everyone from elite university students to convenience store clerks.

In the US, maybe. The average world GDP per capita PPP is $17k. The US GDP per capita PPP is $59k, almost 4x the world.

In most of the rest of the world, including other developed countries, "convenience store clerks" definitely don't have iPhones.

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My son complained that he could barely use Uber or the various streaming apps.

Your son's use case isn't an universal one, as mentioned, my work colleague doesn't do nothing of that.

I think Uber is quite popular...

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What are you talking about?

> it's easy to find iPhones belonging to everyone from elite university students to convenience store clerks. In the US, maybe. The average world GDP per capita PPP is $17k. The US GDP per capita PPP is $59k, almost 4x the world. In most of the rest of the world, including other developed countries, "convenience store clerks" definitely don't have iPhones.

I'm just telling you what I see in China. Convenience store clerks do have iPhones, regardless of how you feel about it.
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