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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by rickyc091 »

geekamongus wrote: post #108
mjulian wrote: post #51

I love the product, but the login workflow is awful. Why innovate on logins? We've solved that problem. Specifically, the login is a randomly-generated one-time code sent to your email address. Notion says this is more secure than them storing a username+password, but that's a dubious argument. They've also said this is two-factor auth (lolno). A side effect of this is that Notion is unusable on my mobile device sinc…

Agreed. The login scenario has me highly dubious about going all-in with Notion.

I actually love their login, but it's not for the reason you would think. They expire the session very frequently which has been an annoyance for me, so log-in with the magic link has been faster than digging for the password through my manager.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by crooked-v »

I've pretty much immediately fallen in love with this service. For me, the killer feature is that the 'share' functionality lets me share a public link to that page and subpages with no personal info included, so it can double as a pastebin/Dropbox-share replacement.

If they just had a way to associate shared pages with a custom domain, this could be a Medium replacement too.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by diminoten »

spiralganglion wrote: post #83
sephoric wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one thing I've wanted. A local app that lets me store all my data with markdown syntax, syntax highlighting, in local files and directories, specifically for macOS although a cross platform app would be fine. One that doesn't require an account or the internet at all for it to work. I've wanted this kind of app for many years (and wouldn't be opposed to making it if no existing solution is all that great at i…

I’ve been using Quiver for a few years, and love it. Totally replaced Evernote for me. Not sure if they have syntax highlighting though — there is a “code” cell, but I haven’t used it. http://happenapps.com

I also use Quiver, I just wish I could have my notes on my Android phone. No one has yet brought together quite everything -- there's always tradeoffs between the various note apps, even though there doesn't have to be.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by andruby »

QML wrote: post #145
dkarbayev wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, then we should create open-source analog of notion. I actually was itching wondering what could I create in OSS realm. Probably will have a look at this task :)

That seems to be pretty hard. I just finished a long search for an Open Source one-page markdown editor (no split windows for preview and editing): the closest I could find was an editor called MarkText but even that doesn’t have half the functionality of Notion or Dropbox Paper. It’s hard to compete with fully funded and devoted teams.

I've been looking for something too. GetCanvas (now defunct but released as open source) was wonderful, but seems abandoned.

stackedit.io has been the closest that I could find.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by woolvalley »

3dfan wrote: post #148
NikolaNovak wrote: post #140

Hmm, I cannot seem to create an account without sharing my Google contacts; which I see no need to do and it's needless friction. I get into a loop of clicking checkbox "I don't want to share my Google contacts", then being rerouted back to login page and requested approval to share my contacts. Pricing wise, I wish these types of apps didn't have such a steep escalation as soon as I want to share. $4 for individual,…

If you install a native app, doesn't it completely have you by the balls anyhow?

The world is not android ;) Permissions and proxies exist.

Notion is a web app to AFAIK

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by NikolaNovak »

3dfan wrote: post #148
NikolaNovak wrote: post #140

Hmm, I cannot seem to create an account without sharing my Google contacts; which I see no need to do and it's needless friction. I get into a loop of clicking checkbox "I don't want to share my Google contacts", then being rerouted back to login page and requested approval to share my contacts. Pricing wise, I wish these types of apps didn't have such a steep escalation as soon as I want to share. $4 for individual,…

If you install a native app, doesn't it completely have you by the balls anyhow?

I'm trying to create an account via desktop web interface, FWIW.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by roywiggins »

aerovistae wrote: post #142
louis-paul wrote: post #47

There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text/Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, te…

The "quality" feeling of sublime app for me is majorly undermined by the constant nagging popups to pay for it. so many other services I happily pay for and somehow sublime has made me not want to pay for their services.

It's honestly the most polite nagware I've ever used.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by woolvalley »

owenwil wrote: post #92
ausjke wrote: post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

There's a reason nobody really does this: there's just no money in it. Nylas mail is a good example of this: it offered the ability to self-run it and pay them for the license, but nobody really did. I wonder what they would need to charge to make it feasible? $1000 a year? It makes me pretty sad, but it's just such a distraction for a company of Notion's size and stage.

On-prem enterprise software does make money. You still charge money for it either way. A few examples: Github Enterpise, JIRA, etc.

And notion doesn't need to see their users data to charge money for a service. They could engineer it to be E2E encrypted for the group and not have the ability to see their customers data even with a subpoena.

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