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Re: Government shutdown: TLS certificates not renewed, many websites are down

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Post by FredSmith » Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 3:36 PM UTC

maratd wrote: post #57

bartread wrote: post #17

Serious question for US members of HN: how do you tolerate these shutdowns? I mean, apart from the loss of services, including websites, it seems like many federal workers aren't being paid. Will they be paid back after the shutdown impasse is resolved or is the money they didn't/couldn't earn lost to them. This seems unfair and, in the meantime, how are they supposed to go about their lives? Overall it seems potenti…

> Serious question for US members of HN: how do you tolerate these shutdowns? I realize this is being portrayed in the media as a total government shutdown, but that's really not the case. The US has multiple levels of government. Federal, State, County, and Municipal. State, County, and Municipal governments (which are the ones that really provide essential services), are operating normally. For the Federal governme…

The USPTO is potentially affected. They are self funded, but rely on legislation to give them permission to use the funds. So if thenshitdown goes on for another 4-5 weeks, the PTO might have to shut down. Not because they don’t have the money, but they don’t have legal authority to use it.

Re: Government shutdown: TLS certificates not renewed, many websites are down

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Post by zorga » Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 8:16 PM UTC

sattoshi wrote: post #134

zorga wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trump is asking for less than 1/1000 of our annual budget for border security. No, he's asking for it for a wall, not for border security; wall's are't security, they're security theater. Actual security requires people, not walls. Most illegals fly in on Visa's and just over stay, they don't sneak in through the desert. Walls are easily by ladders, ropes, and shovels, only an idiot like Trump would want to spend b…

What is this meme that walls are ineffective? The only places that are/were effective without walls shot people on sight (Dominican Republic for example).

Was there something about ropes, ladders, and shovels that wasn't clear? Wall's can't stop someone determined to get over/under it; security doesn't come from a wall, it comes from boots on the ground. It's not a meme, it's a fact. Beyond that, putting up a wall presumes incorrectly that that's how illegals get into the country, it's not. One only has to get a tourist visa and then not leave to get into the country, no wall stops that; walls are for show and are a waste of money. Then entire border of the country is open, putting a wall on a small part of the southern border is simply idiotic.

Re: Government shutdown: TLS certificates not renewed, many websites are down

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Post by equalunique » Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 10:35 PM UTC

FPGAhacker wrote: post #102

bartread wrote: post #17

Serious question for US members of HN: how do you tolerate these shutdowns? I mean, apart from the loss of services, including websites, it seems like many federal workers aren't being paid. Will they be paid back after the shutdown impasse is resolved or is the money they didn't/couldn't earn lost to them. This seems unfair and, in the meantime, how are they supposed to go about their lives? Overall it seems potenti…

Say you have a government that does only two things, of equal cost. Feed hungry children, and make Statues of past leaders for city squares. Now imagine the budget of the government was cut in half by Congress. Which of these two things do you think they would stop doing? The answer is very likely to stop feeding hungry children. Tax payers will feel that pain and become irate at the budget cuts and demand the budget…

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