Apple Priced Itself Out of Shrinking Chinese Smartphone Market

Post by Redoubts » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

izacus wrote: post #107

gwright wrote: post #20

Why is the comparison always done to the newest, high end Apple phones? The iPhone 7 is still sold for $550 unlocked and $23/month on installment in the US. I assume it is also more reasonably priced in China as compared to the high end XS phones. You don't have to purchase the most expensive iPhone to get a high quality phone from Apple. Attributing the decreased demand in China to the price of the most exclusive ph…

Because they can buy a brand new Xiaomi Mi8 for 400$ and have a high-end phone not something 4 generations old. And they do - Xiaomi has incredible growth.

Post by bepotts » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 8:24 PM UTC

vamos_davai wrote: post #62

baroffoos wrote: post #7

I really don't understand why anyone is paying $1000+ for a phone when you can get really amazing phones for $300.

I don't really understand why 21 Savage got a 12 car garage when he's only got 6 cars.

Post by Markoff » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 10:47 PM UTC

HenryBemis wrote: post #26

nkozyra wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could apply the same question to pretty much every consumer product on Earth. The answer is a critical function of marketing.

I've been buying/using iPhones since 2009. The last iPhone I bought was a 7+. Right after that I had sensed that Apple is messing around with us on the CPU thing, and it finally came out that they did. I now have a Honor X8, I am super content about this, it cost me 229 pounds, takes 2 SIM cards and a 128GB SD card. I can also have a firewall NoRoot Firewall), more granular privacy controls, I can root and and replac…

Post by Markoff » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 11:03 PM UTC

hendersoon wrote: post #13

Neither pricing nor the economy fully explains why Apple's suddenly doing so poorly in China and not in the US or EU. They're triggers certainly, but not the root cause. There's one keystone here-- WeChat. In the US and EU, Apple has people locked into their ecosystem. That doesn't apply to China. WeChat is their alpha and their omega. They use it not only for chatting, as you might expect from its name-- WeChat is i…

Post by radicaldreamer » Sat, Jan 05, 2019, 5:20 PM UTC

mr_spothawk wrote: post #114

radicaldreamer wrote: post #57

Chinese flagships offer better, more differentiated technology at the same or lower prices... also Android AOSP China is more desirable now because Android apps are first class citizens in China (WeChat + social + camera apps). Apple is losing it's innovation edge as well. Current flagship phone cycles in China are faster than Apple's -- triple, quad cameras, in-screen fingerprint readers, articulating selfie-cams, p…

> Chinese flagships offer [] more differentiated technology at the same or lower prices... not better... > Apple is losing it's innovation edge as well. Apple's edge has always been its implementation . They were not the first in smartphones, computers, tablets, wireless earbuds. Instead, they make their best attempt at hardware in a sophisticated ecosystem. > triple, quad cameras, in-screen fingerprint readers, arti…