But what do you see when you type "sexy naked woman" into Google Image Search?
Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Overt sexual content”? She’s just stood there. That’s not a sexual pose, she’s not engaging in sex. Even if I take your point about the figure it depicts, it’s about as subtle a sexual icon as it gets.
She's just standing there... naked. That is not the norm for a statue of Aphrodite. It derives from the tradition of the nude Aphrodite of Knidos, which... made huge waves for titillation value: > According to an account by Pliny the Elder, Praxiteles sculpted both a nude statue and a draped statue of Aphrodite. The city of Kos purchased the draped statue, because they felt the nude version was indecent and reflected…
Re the bath tub example, that’s an interesting example because it’s quite common to have pictures of children playing in the bath or at the beach and obviously that’s not porn. We also have communal changing rooms in gyms and some swimming pools. Some Northern European countries have communal steam rooms where the etiquette is full nudity; and that’s not a sexual thing either (well, not to anyone who actually uses them anyway). There are nudist colonies and all sorts. Again they aren’t a sexual thing. What about breastfeeding? Women should have to hide away in toilets to feed their babies and there’s nothing sexual about feeding a child.
Thus the issue is really more of sensibilities than anything. Nudity isn’t a big thing in Europe like it is in the US. It’s common for women to walk the beaches topless; and frankly they should be allowed to since it’s perfectly natural and men do it too. The whole “the statue is topless so it’s sexually explicit” comment is really weird to read in the context of European attitudes because we differentiate between nudity and sex (as the earlier examples demonstrate). Which is probably also why America needs the “free the nipple” (and similar) campaign if people like yourself consider any form of nudity to be sexually explicit regardless of context. I mean we are all born naked - it’s so weird to read someone say that the form we are born in is indesent and worse imagery than violence. I just can’t fathom that logic. Sorry :-/
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#153The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…
Have you wondered why extremely successful cultures (Christian, Muslim) have/had rules against public nudity? I had, and my (layman) conclusions were that public nudity creates too much sexual tension, and that is bad for stability of society. Hence, societies just function better without public nudity.
Have you wondered why extremely successful cultures today are the ones that tend to be less rather than more prudish?
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you wondered why extremely successful cultures (Christian, Muslim) have/had rules against public nudity? I had, and my (layman) conclusions were that public nudity creates too much sexual tension, and that is bad for stability of society. Hence, societies just function better without public nudity.
Have you wondered why extremely successful cultures today are the ones that tend to be less rather than more prudish?
I'd say the weakening of prudishness is recent phenomena and it's too soon for it to have an impact on society's success. We'd need to wait a couple hundred years to see where it leads.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was a lot that happened in Ancient Greece that doesn’t happen now. If your entire point about it being sexual is based on the sensibilities of a population 2000 years ago then I suggest perhaps your view of the world needs an update. Eg Things like blood sports are now widely disliked and we no longer believe in multiple in Greek gods nor that the sun is pulled up via chariot.
>>>> I think what they would say is that the statue was not created nor are photos provided with an aim to ‘appeal to a prurient interest’. >>> It would be hard to defend that claim as to the creation of the statue. On the other hand, I feel fairly confident in claiming that women wearing nothing but a sheet that doesn't quite cover their butt are considered sexy in the modern day too. Would you believe that, say, so…
Women walk around topless all the time on European beaches.
To be honest I think it’s hypocritical to say women should have their chests covered when men don’t have the same rules.
But we are drifting waaaay off topic now.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think sex is particularly messianic, but I also don't see why censoring and policing nominally adult content should be Google's business - literally or metaphorically. This is just one example from a growing list of questionable moral behaviour and outright abuse of monopoly power. The political reality is that Google has serious trust and credibility issues on many fronts. The more this kind of thing happens…
It is also an example of the USA shoving down its morals to the rest of the world. Especially areas where partial nudity is accepted. One of the very first things in life a baby does is searching the nipple (which is darker than the rest of the breast) and sucking on it. Breast are very much part of nature and human life, yet we censor it as if it is something which shouldn't be seen. At the same time, we have no iss…
I see no reason to think this has anything to do with the US. For instance Steam recently decided to allow openly sexualized games. The relevance there being that they've absolutely made sure that they're not going to run into legal issues in the US doing that. And it turns out, they're not.
So this is coming from Google. Their motivation is much harder to discern. Related to advertising? Avoiding store segregation as they expand into e.g. various far more conservative Asian or Islamic nations? Trying to create a 'Disney-Esque' image for Android as opposed to being that naughty back alley alternative to Apple? Maybe it was an algorithm or even human gone awry. Lots of possibilities, and we'll likely never know which it was - even if they choose to respond to this.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with almost everything you wrote but... it's easy for me to see almost no connection between viewing violence and people commiting violent behavior. It's much easier for me to see a connection between sexy media and sexual behavior with consequences like teen pregnancy and STDs. I watch a violent movie yet I don't want to commit violent acts after. I watch a sexy movie and I do start to desire to have sex. it…
The US has one of the highest rates of gun-related murders. I don’t necessarily agree that game/movie violence leads to violence in real life, such a claim requires proof, however at this point we can see an obvious correlation. American culture prefers violence in movies/games, while banning nudity and waging an expensive war on drugs and yet it has some of the highest rates of violence, teen pregnancies and drug ad…
How do you go from "such a claim requires proof" to, there is an obvious correlation? Just because there are both more violent video games and more gun-related violence doesn't mean that those variables are connected.
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#158Looks like ArtStation didn't bribe Google like the rest of the big apps like Instagram, Facebook, Twitter... I'm surprised people forget that Google now IS evil and corrupt, and are just squashing "small" companies in favor of buying or destroying them
I didn't downvote you, but I think with better tone and a bit more detail, you could have made a well-received comment out of this thought.
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#159Don’t be evil, we have decided some art is evil, so we have removed it so you don’t have the temptation to be evil.-Google
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
A good part of their customer base (i.e., the advertisers) are not okay with explicit content, for a variety of reasons. Fear of their brand being associated with sex, puritan principles (their own or those of their customers), or just plain convinced that advertisements don't have the same impact when the content it is served with is arousing. That is to say, the corporations don't care, and will grant you a scant a…
I don’t think that’s quite it. I remember back in the 1990s lots and lots of pearl clutching about various companies using sex to sell their products, especially beer. The idea that now advertisers are afraid of sex doesn’t really make a lot of sense to me. What I really think it is is that most adults are pretty meh on the whole thing one way or another. Most of us look at some porn, but aren’t heavy users. There ar…
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