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Microsoft knows how to talk the enterprise talk. BTW, Amazon competes against Alibaba for their main business, not Microsoft.
Just to clarify: Amazon's "main business" is AWS, not their online store. For many years their store operated at a loss. Don't get me wrong, amazon.com is a HUGE business, but it's not Bezos' breadwinner. https://www.zdnet.com/article/all-of-amazons-2017-operating-...
Facial recognition: It’s time for action
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Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Anything I build can and will be abused. I am not responsible for my designs, for my products, and for the data I collect and store. If my technology is used for evil, the corporation employing me is responsible and the government is at fault for not doing something about it."
Yes, you are. You chose to follow the design and build a system you knew would be abused. This mindset is what got us here to begin with. YOU ARE AT FAULT.
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#153This is a laudable first step in advocacy for real regulation of a technology that already has huge impacts on privacy and civil society. I was in the room for one of the meetings with Microsoft's senior leadership as a representative of a Seattle-based civil liberties group. While our coalition would like to see MS go further, it was quite clear that they take their commitment to corporate responsibility and ethics…
>> This is a laudable first step in advocacy for real regulation of a technology... Perhaps I'm jaded, but I don't agree at all. They're trying to get it regulated so they can be creepy without fear. One of the first "good" uses listed was finding 3000 children. "Think of the children" is a common rallying cry for evil. Nothing else mentioned was really relevant. The line IMHO needs to be drawn at anything that you'd…
I'm not familiar with this line of reasoning -- can you elaborate, or are there any good examples?
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#154- Targets (people)
- Enablers (tech companies)
- Stalkers (consumer companies)
- Big Brother (governments)
Notably the only ones who cannot use the system are the Targets, because they don't have the necessary scale. Being part of a system you can't use is typically to your detriment.
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#155> From the moment one steps into a shopping mall, it’s possible not only to be photographed but to be recognized by a computer wherever one goes. Beyond information collected by a single camera in a single session, longer-term histories can be pieced together over time from multiple cameras at different locations. A mall owner could choose to share this information with every store. Stores could know immediately when you visited them last and what you looked at or purchased, and by sharing this data with other stores, they could predict what you’re looking to buy on your current visit.
> Our point is not that the law should deprive commercial establishments of this new technology. To the contrary, we are among the companies working to help stores responsibly use this and other digital technology to improve shopping and other consumer experiences. We believe that a great many shoppers will welcome and benefit from improvements in customer service that will result.
But people deserve to know when this type of technology is being used, so they can ask questions and exercise some choice in the matter if they wish. Indeed, we believe this type of transparency is vital for building public knowledge and confidence in this technology.
So they don't actually advocate that you should get a right to privacy or a right not to be profiled once you enter a store.
Instead, you get a right to opt-out of profiling by not ever entering any kind of store again.
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#156Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Companies calling for more regulation is a ubiquitous phenomenon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture More regulation generally gives an advantage to larger companies over smaller ones since it creates barriers to entry; compliance costs usually increase sublinearly with revenue. (E.g., it's a lot easier for Microsoft to hire a dedicated lawyer than it is for a garage start-up.) This idea that "companies…
Maybe if you can't do business without making sure you're not causing harm, you shouldn't do business at all. Of course anti-competitive lobbying happens all the time. But if it's not economically feasible for a Scrappy Gang of Dropouts in The Garage follow to regulations that protect people's lives and freedom in this country, I'm cool with them finding another country, or their own deserted island perhaps.
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> This is a laudable first step in advocacy for real regulation of a technology... Perhaps I'm jaded, but I don't agree at all. They're trying to get it regulated so they can be creepy without fear. One of the first "good" uses listed was finding 3000 children. "Think of the children" is a common rallying cry for evil. Nothing else mentioned was really relevant. The line IMHO needs to be drawn at anything that you'd…
> "Think of the children" is a common rallying cry for evil. I'm not familiar with this line of reasoning -- can you elaborate, or are there any good examples?
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#159So MSFT was actually ranked the most accurate facial algorithm company in the world by NIST. It’s interesting they’re just now talking about this (after these results were published)
That's the perfect time to call for regulations to make it harder for your competitors to catch up. cf Regulatory Capture ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture )
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#160This is a laudable first step in advocacy for real regulation of a technology that already has huge impacts on privacy and civil society. I was in the room for one of the meetings with Microsoft's senior leadership as a representative of a Seattle-based civil liberties group. While our coalition would like to see MS go further, it was quite clear that they take their commitment to corporate responsibility and ethics…
There is no such thing. “Why take a step away from the oncoming truck, that one strp won’t save my life?”