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The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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> I paid for sublime so i will use it -- and multiple cursors everywhere is a boon for quick and dirty data munging These days pretty much every serious editor has multiple cursors, including Visual Studio Code.

had to look up "multiple cursors" and it looks like it's the same as "column mode" which has been around in MS editors forever?

dude. you have been missing out.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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amen people look at me like I'm an old crazy dude because I don't use a git UI or eclipse, or intellij, or from sublime. Git already has plenty of quirks, adding another layer of unknown on top of it is a no-go

My most famous quote in my work Slack is: "git already has a luxurious client! it’s called git and has lots of shinies."

While I agree with this in most cases, visual merge is a huge deal.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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It's a good text editor, first and foremost. Compared to netbeans, eclipse, visual studio, even intellj idea in my opinion. The same thing that made textmate, then sublime text successful made VSC successful. I takes a few seconds to launch, even on my celeron machine with 2Gigs of RAM, it's relatively minimal and unlike intellj it doesn't appear to be analyzing my whole hard drive for hours for no reason... the iron…

> It's a good text editor, first and foremost. Compared to netbeans, eclipse, visual studio, even intellj idea Have to disagree with VSC being better than Intellij. I find Intellij refactoring, debugging and autocomplete far ahead of VSC, especially when it comes to supporting leaser known features, or recently released language changes.

VSC and Intellij aren't the same thing. If you want better refactoring and debugging there are definitely plugins that do exactly that. Hard disagree on autocomplete, I've never run into a single situation where Intellij did it better.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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This is what Paul Graham calls the Python Paradox; namely that in 2004, when Python jobs were relatively more rare, you could find smarter Python engineers than Java engineers for any given project. "[I]f a company chooses to write its software in a comparatively esoteric language, they'll be able to hire better programmers, because they'll attract only those who cared enough to learn it. And for programmers the para…

Both of these are still just very roundabout ways of telling yourself you're awesome because of whatever mildly unusual thing you think you might be doing.

He he, nice contrarian opinion. Me like, mucho (and gracias). The other side may also be true, but this one can be too. Folks on here and elsewhere (juveniles of all ages), time to learn about the age-old saw that there is more than one way of looking at it / different strokes for different folks / circumstances alter cases / get out of your echo chamber / filter bubble / etc.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

#155
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VS Code solves different problems then IntelliJ, PyCharm and Atom. I'm not sure this is a fair comparison. For example, I wouldn't ever code a full Java stack in VS Code. I'd go straight to IntelliJ.

There’s a jetbrains (IntelliJ) flavored ide for basically everything - even c#! I prefer Rider for doing c# in Unity3D over VS or VSCode because it seems muc more performant and the vim plug-in is way better

VS Code has something that JetBrains IDEs cannot match: Price.

For startups in developing countries $200 per seat is a lot of money... VS Code or Atom look amazing in comparison for $0

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

#156

The "live shared coding" angle in VSCode makes it a great option in many areas where there's a need for it. People have been asking jetbrains for this for a decade, and there's nothing on the horizon as far as I can tell.

We use it in our distributed team and it works wonders for pair programming.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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> It's a good text editor, first and foremost. Compared to netbeans, eclipse, visual studio, even intellj idea Have to disagree with VSC being better than Intellij. I find Intellij refactoring, debugging and autocomplete far ahead of VSC, especially when it comes to supporting leaser known features, or recently released language changes.

VSC and Intellij aren't the same thing. If you want better refactoring and debugging there are definitely plugins that do exactly that. Hard disagree on autocomplete, I've never run into a single situation where Intellij did it better.

Well, hard disagree on your hard disagreement, I've never ran into a situation where VSCode did better than Intellij/Webstorm :)

Often, the problem is the order of suggestions, it was magically almost always right on Webstorm and not as good on VSC

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

#158

VS Code solves different problems then IntelliJ, PyCharm and Atom. I'm not sure this is a fair comparison. For example, I wouldn't ever code a full Java stack in VS Code. I'd go straight to IntelliJ.

I use emacs for Java and Scala development with LSP quite successfully, and VS Code's support for language servers is as good as they come. Is it primarily debugging that's the impediment to switching for you?

While we're on the subject - not that many people are aware of it yet, but VS Code has a debugger protocol similar to LSP for pluggable IDE-agnostic debuggers.

https://microsoft.github.io/debug-adapter-protocol/

https://github.com/Microsoft/debug-adapter-protocol/blob/gh-...

I hope this takes off. Between it and LSP, pretty much any text editor can be an IDE with little effort.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Go is a language designed to take CS college graduates to productive engineers at Google with as little fuss as possible. Considering it was designed for an organization in the scope of Google, it's less likely to be the best option for something like a startup, small business, or even a medium size business.

I feel like you should spend some time with Go. If I were building a startup, I would probably choose Go for core infra for being able to move quickly as a developer and write incredibly performant code with about as much mental overhead as most dynamically typed languages. Anecdotally, I've seen it replace Java in quite a few small and medium sized established companies.

> I would probably choose Go for core infra for being able to move quickly as a developer

At the company I used to work at it took nearly a 1000 lines to replace an 80 line bash script. So I can't help but laugh at this statement.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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I've told you guys before - my 10 year old son scored 'well above average' on their interview process. We live in the UK but they are still trying to recruit him. And no - he cannot write code.

My son has seen this post and points out that he not only uses unreal engine - to my complete surprise (and not just a little delight) - he has deployed some c++. I sent him to bed because it's late. Dad;s will know why.
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