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Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by Fins »

scottlocklin wrote: post #145
ender89 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

fighting it gives it attention and validity, its the streisand effect. And Julian Assange lives in the UK but was still a tool of the kremlin's propaganda wing. what's your point?

This isn't even an argument; it is partisan quackery. FWIIW Browder was pro-Putin until Putin stopped letting him get away with tax fraud. Citations available: what do you have?

That's... an interesting interpretation of Magnitsky's murder. (regardless of whether Browder himself was involved in any shady dealings). They, and supporting citations, also come from only one source, too.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by scottlocklin »

Fins wrote: post #151
scottlocklin wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't even an argument; it is partisan quackery. FWIIW Browder was pro-Putin until Putin stopped letting him get away with tax fraud. Citations available: what do you have?

That's... an interesting interpretation of Magnitsky's murder. (regardless of whether Browder himself was involved in any shady dealings). They, and supporting citations, also come from only one source, too.

We're talking about Assange here; why are you changing the subject?

And, I do not get my Browder citations from "one source." I can cite you a bloody youtube video of him talking about what a great guy Putin is.

This still has nothing to do with some poor bastard getting doxxed by a clown who thinks he is Sherlock Holmes.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by Fins »

scottlocklin wrote: post #153
Fins wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's... an interesting interpretation of Magnitsky's murder. (regardless of whether Browder himself was involved in any shady dealings). They, and supporting citations, also come from only one source, too.

We're talking about Assange here; why are you changing the subject? And, I do not get my Browder citations from "one source." I can cite you a bloody youtube video of him talking about what a great guy Putin is. This still has nothing to do with some poor bastard getting doxxed by a clown who thinks he is Sherlock Holmes.

No argument on the doxxing side, but I wasn't talking about Assange. We were talking about the "behind the scenes" movie, and the maker of the film might have been a Putin critic at some point, but is no more than a clown now. His Twitter feed is quite delicious, complete with claims that Russian press is freer than Western, and with adoring comments from people with English-sounding names, but written in such a stilted and obviously translated word for word from Russian language that one could do another HN post how Twitter's claim to have banned Russian bots is nothing but self-serving bunk.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by gspetr »

rjplatte wrote: post #135
gandhium wrote: post #128

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That filmmaker was anti-Putin and he still lives in Russia? Totally believable.

That's not uncommon. Only very high-profile Putin opposers disappear.

Sadly, this isn't true.

You can use google translate to read this:

https://www.novayagazeta.ru/articles/2018/10/22/78289-povar-...

TL;DR version: Small time regional bloggers disappear and the "executioners" are then erased themselves.

This is one of the very few newspapers left in Russia which does this kind of investigative journalism, they get death threats regularly.

EDIT: Spelling.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by JdeBP »

dahart wrote: post #66
JdeBP wrote: post #55

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There is no implicit licence. This is an oft-circulated but fallacious rationalization made by computer people that is not in line with the law. The law does not recognize any such thing, and until the turn of the 21st century this was a recognized hole. Technically, the World Wide Web (and indeed other systems from FidoNet to SMTP) was a violation of many countries' copyright laws. Legislators fixed the hole, but no…

> There is no implicit license. This is an oft-circulated but fallacious rationalization There is implicit copyright, I assume that’s what the parent comment was referring to. In the US, it is automatically illegal to copy something and redistribute it under copyright law [1]. The same is true in the EU [2]. While copyrights are not licenses, the parent comment is correct in the sense that one does not have a license…

You and xe were both quite clearly talking about implicit licences.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by JdeBP »

dragonwriter wrote: post #100
JdeBP wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no implicit licence. This is an oft-circulated but fallacious rationalization made by computer people that is not in line with the law. The law does not recognize any such thing, and until the turn of the 21st century this was a recognized hole. Technically, the World Wide Web (and indeed other systems from FidoNet to SMTP) was a violation of many countries' copyright laws. Legislators fixed the hole, but no…

> There is no implicit licence. This is an oft-circulated but fallacious rationalization made by computer people that is not in line with the law. > The law does not recognize any such thing Okay, so you said it three times, but it doesn't make it true. Implied license is a real legal doctrine in both the general law of licenses and copyright in particular, at least in the US. See, just for a random case incorporatin…

The law concerned, in this case of a (purportedly) Russian citizen using EU-located servers to serve WWW pages to people in the EU, is not U.S. law. You have made this further error twice, now.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by EGreg »

rjplatte wrote: post #136
redog wrote: post #69

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People are selfish and wish to capitalize on the viral nature of reuse. So they make up "legal rights" to protect their ability to out gain you even after they're long dead.

Are you arguing against intellectual property?

Seems so

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by scottlocklin »

Fins wrote: post #154
scottlocklin wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're talking about Assange here; why are you changing the subject? And, I do not get my Browder citations from "one source." I can cite you a bloody youtube video of him talking about what a great guy Putin is. This still has nothing to do with some poor bastard getting doxxed by a clown who thinks he is Sherlock Holmes.

No argument on the doxxing side, but I wasn't talking about Assange. We were talking about the "behind the scenes" movie, and the maker of the film might have been a Putin critic at some point, but is no more than a clown now. His Twitter feed is quite delicious, complete with claims that Russian press is freer than Western, and with adoring comments from people with English-sounding names, but written in such a stil…

So, I'm supposed to believe some anon's interpretation of this documentary... apparently based on his subjective analysis of some guy's twitter feed... over my own lying eyes?

How do you explain the Russian documents on Browders website that say ... what Nekrasov says, and NOT what Browder says? It's a pretty simple fact check; you don't even need to speak Russian to do it. I did it, and it appears that Nekrasov was honest and Browder is the deceptive lunatic who wants to start WW-3 over his tax bill. Hey, I could be wrong: on the other hand, I'm providing citations and you, an anon, are providing opinions as to the political content of someone's twitter feed.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Post by SZJX »

ender89 wrote: post #134
scottlocklin wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahem. The maker of that documentary is anti-Putin to the extent he supports the theory that Putin blew up some Russian apartment buildings to start a war. Browder, on the other hand, is actively surpressing the documentary; even if none of the things said about him in the documentary are true (in which case you'd think he would sue the guy who made it for libel; a guy who lives in the UK), that's pretty shady.

fighting it gives it attention and validity, its the streisand effect. And Julian Assange lives in the UK but was still a tool of the kremlin's propaganda wing. what's your point?

Don't think publicizing information against the US presidential candidates makes somebody "a tool of the Kremlin's propaganda wing". Or have you drank too much laughable American propaganda yourself?
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