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Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by swaggyBoatswain »

rootlocus wrote: post #74
nomadtwin wrote: post #49

There's Affinity Photo / Designer that is pretty similar to Photoshop (UI & functionality) and cost around $50. No subscription, no bullshit. That's (kinda) affordable, right?

Affinity Photo / Designer are very very far from Photoshop. Affinity Photo is a replacement for Lightroom (raw photo editors), and Affinity Designer is a replacement for Adobe Illustrator (vector graphics). Although you can do vectors and photo editing in Photoshop, the main purpose of PS is raster painting, which neither Affinity Photo nor Designer are remotely good at. As such, neither of them could replace GIMP or…

Affinity photo is more lightroom + photoshop mix

Affinity designer is illustrator first + photoshop pixel support

I prefer using AffinityDesigner and AffinityPhoto, fast development, loads quicker, the export tool is way better than adobe products, just all around easier to use.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by prolikewh0a »

enriquto wrote: post #47
nothis wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to support GIMP but, especially for fast, professional use, the UI makes it impossible. Their raw features are on par with anything I'd want to do in Photoshop, it's 100% a UI issue at this point. And I don't get why it's this hard for open source projects to realize that (the only notable exception I know is Firefox, which I love).

What is exactly the problem with gimp's UI? I find it intuitive and very easy to use (but then, I have not used many other interactive imaging programs). Is it missing something important? Has too many useless features? GIMP's UI is alright for me, what I need are more features that are sorely lacking: 1) ability to work with images having an arbitrary number of spectral bands 2) floating-point pixel values 3) comple…

GIMP is a bit of a learning process from Photoshop, but once you know where everything is in translation, it's really not too bad. I moved entirely to Linux and while I have feature requests for GIMP, it hasn't held any of my art back.

Their window/toolbox system sucks though. I have a hard time placing all windows where they need to be and even opening some of them. It's probably my biggest complaint right now.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by ricardobeat »

jorams wrote: post #117
amenod wrote: post #85

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> What is exactly the problem with gimp's UI? Where do I start? - sometimes when I start it it doesn't display toolbox - when I open the toolbox it is (sometimes) a vertical line of buttons (single column) instead of 5 columns that I begged it countless times to be - setting the size of pencil is completely unintuitive - I usually click in what appears to be input field, only to discover it is not (but instead some m…

> setting the size of pencil is completely unintuitive - I usually click in what appears to be input field, only to discover it is not (but instead some meter that sets size to some huge number) It actually is an input field, but it can be interacted with in 3 ways. Clicking on the value focuses it, and allows editing by keyboard. Clicking and dragging in the bottom half of the block allows you to increase or decreas…

Sounds like a terrible idea, if the interaction is not discoverable. Even if it was easy to understand, you need a lot more mouse dexterity than the average user to operate something like this.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by tannhaeuser »

jandrese wrote: post #103
nothis wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to support GIMP but, especially for fast, professional use, the UI makes it impossible. Their raw features are on par with anything I'd want to do in Photoshop, it's 100% a UI issue at this point. And I don't get why it's this hard for open source projects to realize that (the only notable exception I know is Firefox, which I love).

Personally I've found GIMP's UI to be easier than Photoshop's, but I started out with the GIMP. I wonder if maybe they shouldn't go with a XUL like system where the UI can be greatly customized by third parties. Someone would undoubtedly create the Photoshop clone UI and make a bunch of people happy.

That's how GTK (The GIMP Toolkit) started, isn't? I'd rather have them focus on GIMP's core features, maybe UI enhancements, but certainly not on platform-building.

Edit: or rather, create a SketchUp clone with good 2D projection/export (Blender isn't for casual use)

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by [deleted] »

ptero wrote: post #105

This is great, I hope Gimp puts it to good use. I would love for Gimp to focus more on artistic uses instead of only on software types (which is probably a vain hope). We would greatly benefit from a good artistic/photo image editing tool that does not belong to the Adobe's subscription license racket. Unfortunately, Gimp is not nearly in the same class as Photoshop, so most artists grumble about Adobe but still pay…

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Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by slig »

ptero wrote: post #105

This is great, I hope Gimp puts it to good use. I would love for Gimp to focus more on artistic uses instead of only on software types (which is probably a vain hope). We would greatly benefit from a good artistic/photo image editing tool that does not belong to the Adobe's subscription license racket. Unfortunately, Gimp is not nearly in the same class as Photoshop, so most artists grumble about Adobe but still pay…

Have you tried Affinity Photo/Designer?

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by MaDeuce »

omegabravo wrote: post #32
rasengan wrote: post #4

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There are actually many different ways you can customize the UI to your liking, including themes among other things. You can also run GIMP in window mode which encapsulates all sub windows into a single app window, just like the other apps you mentioned. If none of these are your cup of tea, please make a PR - It’s open source. :) That said, Krita and Blender are very very nice.

I had no idea. For those people that last successfully used gimp >5 years ago. Windows > Single Window Mode. Windows > New Toolbox Windows > Dockable Dialogs > Tool Options It is hard to convey how much more comfortable I feel with the program with these tiny settings changes. I wonder how many other people are in the same boat as I. I spend a lot of time in a grid style interface, so it is great to see: * View > Sho…

Nor did I. I've been using gimp a few times a year for 15+ years -- i.e., never enough to build much muscle memory. Your suggestions will make a huge difference for me.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by yunyu »

rootlocus wrote: post #92
ayr-ton wrote: post #21

This is nice. Hope to see new functionality and better usability. :-)

Keep hoping, because the GIMP team "will use the money to do much overdue hardware upgrade for the core team members and organize the next hackfest to bring the team together, as well as sponsor the next instance of Libre Graphics Meeting."

Introducing usability and functionality improvements isn't mutually exclusive from doing those. At the very least, I'd expect some improvements to come out of the hackfest.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by enriquto »

avhon1 wrote: post #149
enriquto wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is exactly the problem with gimp's UI? I find it intuitive and very easy to use (but then, I have not used many other interactive imaging programs). Is it missing something important? Has too many useless features? GIMP's UI is alright for me, what I need are more features that are sorely lacking: 1) ability to work with images having an arbitrary number of spectral bands 2) floating-point pixel values 3) comple…

You might be interested in ImageJ [0] or FIJI [1] (which is ImageJ bundled with a bunch of plugins). It can: 1.) handle hyperspectral images 2.) handle images with 32-bit floating-point pixels 3.) handle gigantic images, streaming from disk as necessary 4.) record edits as a macro, which can be replayed on other images Unfortunately, I'm not aware of, and a little searching didn't uncover, any capability for handling…

Thanks! There's plenty of software that supports these features (and does not require you to touch any--gasp--java). I am just sad that these basic things are not readily available in GIMP, which could otherwise attempt to be a sort of generic tool for image processing. They seem to be focused too much in color photography, while the tool is not directly useful to people working with images that are not of this kind (e.g., astronomical images, microscopy, satellite, radar, and mathematical image processing).

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by girvo »

ghostly_s wrote: post #122
PascLeRasc wrote: post #109

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Krita's pretty good for an digital-pencil-based art tool and Darktable is a nice Lightroom replacement, both just need a bit of UI tuning.

Darktable is not even in the same category as Lightroom. I spent months trying to figure out how to make it work for me before realizing it has zero library management functionality, which the devs seem to have missed is Lightroom's main value proposition. It is purely a non-destructive editor, and if you look up discussions on this topic on the mail lists you'll see WONTFIX responses in the vein of "just use your fi…

I would absolutely love to see a FOSS alternative to Photo Mechanic. It’s a brilliant bit of software, stores info in the file itself in a neat way that syncs well across NextCloud, giving me a neat “cloud” workflow (sync folder raw after import, process, then remove sync once it’s done). It plus Darktable (or in my case, Affinity Photo) absolute rules
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