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What the f*** is the edge?

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Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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https://arcentry.com/

What's kinda mind blowing is that this is an actual business. I can't imagine why someone would need this specifically for their cloud presentations. Like isn't visio enough for everything?

It has been fifteen years since I had access to a machine with Visio installed, and my memories from back then aren't good memories. This seems more like a descendant of GraphViz than anything to do with Visio.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Are you the author of that extension? If not, why would you give full control over your browsing experience to a third party without any benefit?

There's a word replacer extension I used a few years ago to implement XKCD's entire list of suggested replacements, to my great amusement. Due to my predisposition I consider great amusement to be of tremendous benefit to my well-being.

I love that one. I want an atomic car.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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I still don’t understand what problems people have with xml. The json vs xml debate very much feels like the tab vs white space debate to me.

I suspect the reasons that XML ultimately lost are: 1. You could represent it as a nested structure of your language's standard lists & maps, which you already know the API of, which you could directly operate on. For dynamic languages, this is much faster to stick a prototype together, even if it bites you in the ass eventually. But by the stage, you've already chosen JSON. 2. It was less characters to manually type…

The sad thing about #5 is that XPath is epic and trying to simulate queries using it in almost any programming language without just implementing it is tons of grunt work :(. When I a trying to parse through some complex data structure I still to this day find myself getting tired after writing a bunch of nested for loops resulting in my saying "screw this", convering the data to XML, and making short work of the problem with XPath (which only got better and better in subsequent releases of XSL/T).

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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We (Cloudflare) have largely stopped talking about the 'edge' for some of the reasons cited in the article. 1. No one actually knows where it is or what it means. 2. It conjures images of classical ‘edge compute’ use cases like the self driving cars in the article. Those use cases tend to be exceptionally specialized (or just silly). 3. Edge implies a core or origin exists, and maybe it doesn’t need to. We would rath…

A fully mesh P2P computer cloud would be magical. Everybody is the edge that way :)

We’re building that right now: https://holo.host

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

#156

We (Cloudflare) have largely stopped talking about the 'edge' for some of the reasons cited in the article. 1. No one actually knows where it is or what it means. 2. It conjures images of classical ‘edge compute’ use cases like the self driving cars in the article. Those use cases tend to be exceptionally specialized (or just silly). 3. Edge implies a core or origin exists, and maybe it doesn’t need to. We would rath…

As with any emerging computational platform, there is always going to be confusion. For example, when Cloud Computing first premiered I can't count the number of times I had conversations with C-level executives, IT managers, and even engineers thinking that "The Cloud" solved their problem whereas in reality it didn't. With Edge and Fog Computing, we are very much in this early phase of ambiguity.

At present, the closest capability to computing within the network fabric itself is Fog Computing. Cisco's IOx-enabled line of products (https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/cloud-systems-managem...) pair a high-end router with decent computational capabilities. Other companies, like Nebbiolo Technologies (https://www.nebbiolo.tech/) or Fog Horn (https://www.foghorn.io/) provide Fog platforms that are not as locked to specific hardware.

If you would like more information on how Cloud, Edge, and Fog differ, I'll shamelessly plug our blog post from earlier this year:

http://pratumlabs.com/blog/2018/01/what-is-fog-computing/

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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post #49

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What's kinda mind blowing is that this is an actual business. I can't imagine why someone would need this specifically for their cloud presentations. Like isn't visio enough for everything?

It has been fifteen years since I had access to a machine with Visio installed, and my memories from back then aren't good memories. This seems more like a descendant of GraphViz than anything to do with Visio.

I personally don't use it, but I know nearly everyone in my company does. (F500, >300K employees)

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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What's kinda mind blowing is that this is an actual business. I can't imagine why someone would need this specifically for their cloud presentations. Like isn't visio enough for everything?

Wow! So the original story is written on the blog of a company that is creating Chart of clouds architectures (and probably being on the edge)? I'm amazed by how niche that business is! also very nice plug to put your diagrams into the story

Right, I didn't even make the connection until the OP asked the question here.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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> Cynics might of course argue that we have come full circle, from thick client to butt back to thick client, but that would miss the point of what "the edge" is all about: In a world of increasingly ubiquitous computing power we are well advised to reflect on where our computation happens and how we can make the most efficient use of the resources at our disposal. Which is exactly why we the cynics say we've come fu…

In case anybody else is confused like I was: there is a plug-in for browsers that turns all mention of “cloud” to “butt”. Parent apparently has this plugin installed, and thus the “to butt” part is “to cloud”. (Users of said plugin will see me just saying butt a lot here :P )
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