Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

Post by nostrademons » Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 11:28 PM UTC

Retra wrote: post #149

EthanHeilman wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The irony is that not one of these bills itself as AI. It's just "a product that works" I think you are on to something, put differently: If you need to use the term "AI" to enhance the marketability of the product it is probably because the product sucks.

Companies also do that when trolling for investors.

Post by sumoboy » Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 11:29 PM UTC

cs702 wrote: post #33

The problem at IBM is not technological; it's managerial . For a long while now, IBM has been treating "AI" as a product that can be managed, packaged, and sold by "general" business managers -- think MBA-types with only a superficial, qualitative grasp of deep learning and AI. Doing that with rapidly evolving technology is a sure-fire recipe for failure . Most such MBA-types today are ill-equipped to manage, package…

Post by erikpukinskis » Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 11:34 PM UTC

stefs wrote: post #136

ryanmcbride wrote: post #94

I've never interacted directly with IBM, but I remember about 2 years ago, they had a talk at the Akamai Edge conference about how they dealt with bloated cookies. The company I work for has the same problem so I sat in to see what their solution was. The problem they were having is that all the various IBM lines of business added so much garbage onto the client's cookie, that eventually their pages would stop loadin…

had to deal with ibm once. we were developing an application for a customer and ibm was working on some new service for them. of course the customer insisted we use the new ibm service, even though it solved a problem we didn't have at all. the ibm product was a website to be used by end users, while our application had to pass our end users data through. so, i asked the ibm guys (via the customer) to give me the doc…

Post by erikpukinskis » Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 11:42 PM UTC

txsh wrote: post #85

brootstrap wrote: post #20

This stuff is the friggen worst if you ask me. i'm so done with the AI hype train and IBM is the worst. Linked article mentions a 'watsons law' (similar to moore's law etc). If you ask me, it is more likely for watsons law to be that all commercial BigCo 'AI' offerings will burn thru hundreds of millions and ultimately fail rather then the intended meaning. "Phytel’s contribution was analytics paired with an automate…

> If you ask me, it is more likely for watsons law to be ...burn thru hundreds of millions and ultimately fail rather then the intended meaning. That’s already called Musk’s Law.

Post by ploxiln » Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 11:50 PM UTC

stefs wrote: post #136

ryanmcbride wrote: post #94

I've never interacted directly with IBM, but I remember about 2 years ago, they had a talk at the Akamai Edge conference about how they dealt with bloated cookies. The company I work for has the same problem so I sat in to see what their solution was. The problem they were having is that all the various IBM lines of business added so much garbage onto the client's cookie, that eventually their pages would stop loadin…

had to deal with ibm once. we were developing an application for a customer and ibm was working on some new service for them. of course the customer insisted we use the new ibm service, even though it solved a problem we didn't have at all. the ibm product was a website to be used by end users, while our application had to pass our end users data through. so, i asked the ibm guys (via the customer) to give me the doc…

    strncpy(dst, src, strlen(src));
    dst[strlen(dst)] = '\0';