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IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by jkaplowitz »

iamdave wrote: post #100
bandrami wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> first class support for emoji I'm sorry. Even in 2018 I cannot take seriously any claim that "support for emoji" is being used to make business case decisions.

I watched as a Lack of emoji support took down a critical production database for over 100 non-profit organizations in 2015 and made ripples across the charitable giving sector. All because someone included a smiley emoji while making a donation to a local community foundation. Lessons were learned because of poor planning admittedly but if you don't take emoji support seriously it's probably because you haven't suff…

There are different levels of emoji support - and I totally agree that "not crashing when emoji enter your systems" is a vital one to have these days - as is preserving those emojis unmangled.

For me the parent commenter's phrasing of "first class emoji support" goes rather beyond that, e.g. with friendly emoji pickers, maybe reaction emojis, custom emojis, different skin-tone emojis, etc.

I'd view that bigger level of support as extremely optional for a transaction processing company like yours, though less so for a chat system intended for broad appeal in 2018.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by [deleted] »

bandrami wrote: post #44
beefhash wrote: post #17

As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

> first class support for emoji I'm sorry. Even in 2018 I cannot take seriously any claim that "support for emoji" is being used to make business case decisions.

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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by welly »

nopacience wrote: post #76

Long live IRC There will always be new platforms like slack, discord, gitter, and whatever. IRC was and still is great. IRC is simple, its text, its stable. Its simple to program on and a lot can be done above it. IRC is open. The basis of old internet protocols are simple, open and powerful Email, IRC, HTML, FTP And as the article points out, irc has no face. IRC was a time people had to ask for a picture. Different…

What an obnoxious comment.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by HoppyHaus »

sirfz wrote: post #94
HoppyHaus wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm of a generation after you, likely, but I'm in the same boat. I learned python by maintaining an IRC bot, which started out rolling d20s. It then expanded into a 1000+ line monstrosity, which was a mess, but the features taught me many aspects of programming, and let me apply it. The bot has since been rewritten into much, much cleaner code, and is one of a few projects I'm proud of. All thanks to RFC1459.

One of my greatest achievements back then was allprotection.tcl[1] (over 2000+ lines of spaghetti) LOL but I have no doubt that TCL scripting taught me a lot and gave me a huge advantage during my studies! I'm sure you enjoyed what you were doing ;) [1] https://github.com/sirfz/allprotection.tcl

Hah, looks better than my original code. When it was starting to be created, I didn't even know how to write a function, and there were a grand total of I think two when it was retired. Here [1] is my updated code. Apologies for some edgy commands, my IRC server has some... interesting people in it.

[1] https://hoppy.haus/git/Failure/MIPS

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by spookthesunset »

matthberg wrote: post #56
Twirrim wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could any of this kill IRC? It's an open standard.

Embrace Extend Extinguish, the root of Electronic Evils. Hopefully it doesn't happen with IRC as it has with other lovely parts of electronic history. Microsoft was the origin of the term with their browser and OS products of old, yet it has been unfortunately more and more relevant with Google, particularly email and android openness (gmail only features and Google play services, respectively).

That didn't really answer the question that was asked. IRC is an open protocol. Whats your fear?

There are some seriously paranoid people on HN these days, and it is rather disenchanting to have to sift through all the negativity. Failure to embrace new things and new ways of doing things is a surefire way to irrelevancy.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by Dowwie »

My first experience with the internet was through IRC. I had read about IRC in a book I had gotten at a computer show in 1991. I had no idea what I was looking at but figured out how to join a channel. I chatted with someone from Indonesia! How cool was that. None of my friends could relate.

I continue to use IRC regularly. The Python community is thriving on Freenode and Rust community on Mozilla

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by nopacience »

alanpost wrote: post #150

We do customer support over IRC, on Freenode and OFTC. Particularly with the availability of web clients on Freenode, casual IRC users can reach us with minimal hassle while long-time users idle and voice when they're highlighted or the discussion interests them. My experience of Freenode is improved since PIA's involvement. Staff lurk in our channel on-hand to help if something comes up. Last month when services wen…

Support over IRC is historical in open source.

irc.perl.org -- perl language support and development

irc.mozilla.org -- mozila related support and development

irc.freenode.net has many support channels:

#mysql

#postgresql

#vim

#emacs

#nodejs

#css

#javascript

#python

#manjaro -- manjaro linux distro

#archlinux -- arch linux distro

#freebsd

#linux

#vuejs -- horrible support (frontend channel)

#angularjs -- horrible support (frontend channel)

#elasticsearch

#sqlite

#xen

#docker

#git

and the list goes on. many great people there :)

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by ShabbosGoy »

cmsj wrote: post #90
nopacience wrote: post #76

Long live IRC There will always be new platforms like slack, discord, gitter, and whatever. IRC was and still is great. IRC is simple, its text, its stable. Its simple to program on and a lot can be done above it. IRC is open. The basis of old internet protocols are simple, open and powerful Email, IRC, HTML, FTP And as the article points out, irc has no face. IRC was a time people had to ask for a picture. Different…

IRC is and always will be, the greatest social network :)

I met some of the most important people in my life through IRC. I would not have chosen my current career path without the guidance of the many friends I made over the years on various IRC networks and channels.

It was also a great place to vent anonymously when I was at the lowest points of my life, in a judgement free environment. I don’t think any social network will come close to capturing the effect of IRC. Decentralization and federation are what makes it a great protocol, IMO.

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