Live data from Hacker News

Keybase Exploding Messages

keybase.io

151–155 of 155 posts

Re: Keybase Exploding Messages

#152
Hi everyone..I am trying to recover from a deceitful relationship and also trying to help people figure out if their partners are cheating or not..I am friends with the head of team of a hacking team..His investigation services include surveillance of a cheating spouse, partner, wife, husband, boyfriend or girlfriend,hacks from destroying data and evidence against you,changing school and university grades,increasing credit score,expunging your driving and criminal records to someone who is trying to blackmail you,he does random bank wire transfers and etc..He helped me hacked into my ex phone and find out he was cheating on me..If it wasn't for him,I would be in the dark still...Here's >>>>enriquehackdemon11at) gee mail (dot) C o M )>>>>..Tell your friends,family and loved ones to get in touch with him..He offers affordable rates, fast service and is highly confidential….enriquehackdemon11(at) gee mail (dot) C o M )

Re: Keybase Exploding Messages

#154
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the FAQ: Does the timer begin when the message is sent or received? Sent. This seems like the only sensible answer for group chats. And we can't have a different answer for 1-on-1 chats and group chats. That would confuse people. Not the kind of person who reads an FAQ such as yourself, of course. So our answer is simple: you set a timer and the message is gone after that time.

>And we can't have a different answer for 1-on-1 chats and group chats. What might be the reasoning here that Keybase won't do it yet Signal messenger does start the timer on the "receive" end?

There are a couple of important differences, though someone from Signal might need to correct me if I get this wrong:

- Signal never deletes keys until after a message is read, because the key schedule and the message history are closely integrated. So if I send a "30 seconds" disappearing message, but you read it a month later, that will work. Keybase doesn't work that way; we delete keys on a fixed schedule, generally about a week. The "start the clock after sending" rule fits our key schedule better, without creating confusing cases at the one week boundary.

- Keybase is designed to support "very large" groups, like thousands of people. In that setting, a "start the clock after reading" rule would be a problem. It's unrealistic that all N thousand members will ever read a given message, and that would make deletion less reliable.

Re: Keybase Exploding Messages

#155
post #97

Seriously, do we need a stupid animation and a silly-looking "ka-boom" image? It just comes across as trying too hard to be cute and ends up looking childish and stupid.

Metaphors like this help people understand what's happening. If the message just vanishes that could be for any number of reasons. But with this animation it's clear that the message is being erased. Keep in kind not everyone is a hackernews-reading computer expert.

Though I am not personally a fan of cute stuff like that, if it helps in making secure messaging usable for everyone from IT experts to their grandmothers who have never touched a computer I am all for it.
Post reply on HN