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Re: FIU had grand plans for 'signature' bridge. But the design had a key mistake

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Post by JauntyHatAngle » Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 2:17 AM UTC

jessaustin wrote: post #43

JauntyHatAngle wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was using the term to imply someone (or some thing in the case of a company) being labelled as the villain without the evidence conclusively proving they are guilty of the crimes they are accused of.

Do you doubt that the bridge collapsed? Or do you expect that someone besides the engineer or builder will be blamed for the collapse?

You've already named two potential companies that could be attributed unfair amounts of blame.

Beyond them, there are a large number of potential officials that could have leaned on / been leaned on or through nepotism or laziness been a part (or not part) of the planning, design, implementation etc of the bridge that are partly or largely responsible for design/funding choices to this bridge.

There are countless examples of people receiving undue flak before being conclusively proven as guilt free, it is often prudent to wait before leveling accusations - that is what the NTSB does in it's processes - often to a fault.

I think it is unnecessary snark to ask me if the bridge collapsed, please don't be crude.

Re: FIU had grand plans for 'signature' bridge. But the design had a key mistake

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Post by m0llusk » Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 3:21 AM UTC

timpattinson wrote: post #79

m0llusk wrote: post #62

Odd that there is no mention of the analysis on AvE YouTube. The support structure used was substantially different from the one planned and it was the post tensioning process that triggered the failure. It is possible that using the planned supports might have allowed the structure to endure the post tensioning procedure.

AvE might work in engineering, but I don't think he's a structural PE.

What has that got to do with anything? He got input from a range of sources including claimed structural engineers and correctly identified the point of failure during postensioning.

Re: FIU had grand plans for 'signature' bridge. But the design had a key mistake

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Post by echotango » Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 2:54 PM UTC

yorwba wrote: post #103

echotango wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. It's pretty questionable to tell a Frenchman he shouldn't be proud of the Eiffel Tower because he didnt personally design it.

Then why do you keep bringing up Rand's opinion on architecture only to state that you disagree?

Because an earlier post misunderstood Rand's position and I wanted to clarify it. I guess I should have been more clear. My appologies.