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Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by sandworm101 »

coffeeacc wrote: post #147
beauzero wrote: post #85

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For smell. You can get Glade plugins or on the essential oils side a diffuser. We have used both in our family.

Don't they also have female hormones in them?

Not female hormones per se, but things that are so similar as to have similar effects. This is not great for children, particularly developing boys. I've read some links between synthetic estrogen and changes in male behavior. I'd hate to think that a school might be naively using these things because they tend to calm boys down.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by merpnderp »

Tloewald wrote: post #148
merpnderp wrote: post #135

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A middle income family in the US usually has insurance that covers just about any specialist they want to see. MD Anderson, likely the best cancer institute in the world, accepts almost everyone's insurance (and also does about $100,000,000 of free work for those without). The only people really limited in who they can see are those on public insurance like state coverage Medicaid for the poor or federal Medicare for…

As someone living in the US with far better medical coverage than average I am awestruck by how wrong this statement is. Have you ever had to deal with a serious illness in the US?

Yes, with several family members. With middling insurance in Oklahoma. I'm quite well versed in how Blue Cross Blue Shield's tiered policies work with several types of specialists. If you are awestruck, perhaps it is you who needs to learn a bit more.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by NegativeLatency »

eip wrote: post #28
b34r wrote: post #10

I’ve begged my doctor to remove my tonsils and they refuse due to studies like this. I get tonsil stones every single month and at least one severe case of tonsilitis per year (usually closer to 3-4.) Anyone have strategies that worked to convince their GP to allow them to be removed? At this point I’m considering just paying out of pocket to get it done.

It's pretty simple to remove tonsil stones. Just get a lighted tongue depressor and a tonsil stone tool. Think of it as another maintenance task. Like brushing your teeth.

Can you use a water pik?

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by kingkawn »

graycrow wrote: post #54
blackhaz wrote: post #27

Thank you so much for posting this. Really, THANK YOU, kind stranger. Here in the Czech Republic we're always forced by doctors to do AE/TE to our son despite being mildly affected by strep as we are fighting PANDAS. The latest research converges on that AE/TE is not effective, and that we're doing the right thing by not doing the operation. It looks like doctors even in the most advanced medical institutions are bli…

Can confirm that. Recently visited an otorhinolaryngologist with my 3 y.o. daughter having a blocked nose for too long after being sick, and the conversation started with typical "Why you even bothered to come here with such insignificant issue" and ended with "She have an enlarged adenoids, you need to remove them". And all of that been said only after short visual check of a crying child's nose. What you even able…

Everything is based on population averages and fealty to academic research guidelines. But, like any population wide conclusions, it is a tricky move to apply them back to any given individual in the population.

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Post by workaccount34 »

roesel wrote: post #144
workaccount34 wrote: post #124

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Mutilated genitals

I dont know if that qualifies for a “long term health risk”.

We aren't lizards. We can't magically grow back lost portions of out body.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by jdcarter »

ponderatul wrote: post #81

Let me provide you an alternative perspective worth considering. Depending on the seriousness of your condition, having adenoids can result in having problems breathing normally( aka through the nose). Now obviously breathing is very important for your organism, and it will find ways to adapt, and you will find yourself breathing through your mouth. Breathing through the mouth will encourage the development of a long…

My daughter couldn't breathe easily when she was young--when sleeping you could literally hear her breathing from a room or two away. Like having Darth Vader sleeping in the next room. After tonsil/adenoidectomy at about 3 years old she could finally breathe properly and her sleep become much better. It made a HUGE difference to her quality of life.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by glitchc »

robbiep wrote: post #69
tcj_phx wrote: post #64

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> Massage doesn’t cure tonsillectomy Tonsillectomy is prevented by figuring out why the tonsils are becoming inflamed in the first place. I said "bodywork (massage/etc)" because most people aren't familiar with the different kinds of bodywork that were developed over the course of the 20th century. I would place the emphasis on "etc". Massage is a general treatment, while other forms of manual therapy are more specif…

that would not be an obvious bow to draw from your comments, and frankly, and medical practitioners who are not looking at holistic health when presented with a patient are missing the point. However, you are so far off point on the tonsillectomy. Let's take a slightly different condition. A patient has gallstones, causing ascending colangitis. The treatment (which you would describe as treating only the symptoms) is…

Seconded. Not to mention patients lying or involuntarily withholding pertinent information (because embarrassed or would reveal unwholesome behaviour/activities).

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by fromMars »

I am skeptical of the findings. I imagine that people who get their Tonsils and Adenoids removed are probably more predisposed to allergies to begin with.

My brother got both removed when he was 10 as he was suffering from ear infections and other problems, I didn't.

Now as an adult, my allergies are worse and I get sore throats more frequently with more irritating symptoms.

Allergies are also common in my family.

So my experience is that this surgery can have a very positive effect on one's quality of life.

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Post by wolco »

winslett wrote: post #98
goldenkey wrote: post #93

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That is beyond retarded...and a school is supposed to instruct kids in the truthful ways of life? Spraying oil does NOT eliminate aromatic odor molecules. All it does is dilute their presence. In addition, all of these essential oils are from plants, which many people are randomly allergic or inflamed by. Essential oils are for a home. Spraying essential oils into public airspace is such a dick move. Sorry about your…

The school is looking forward to your job application to be a preschool teacher. You'll have the following benefits: * $32k annual salary You'll have the responsibility to take care of the most precious little things that have every walked the earth. Your management are the parents, or as they like to call themselves "the people who pay your salary". These management want you to know they would do nearly everything y…

This makes me think. Could there be an opportunity for remote babysitting or remote education for the earlier grades. We can elimate the not so qualified 32k person.

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Post by cryptonector »

fromMars wrote: post #158

I am skeptical of the findings. I imagine that people who get their Tonsils and Adenoids removed are probably more predisposed to allergies to begin with. My brother got both removed when he was 10 as he was suffering from ear infections and other problems, I didn't. Now as an adult, my allergies are worse and I get sore throats more frequently with more irritating symptoms. Allergies are also common in my family. So…

From the abstract:

> Increases in long-term absolute disease risks were considerably larger than changes in risk for the disorders these surgeries aim to treat.

Presumably specifics are discussed in the paper. They followed 1.2 million children. Perhaps they were able to get an apples-to-apples comparison of children with similar issues and who did and did not get these surgeries.

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