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Re: NFL Releases Finite Element Helmet Models

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Post by lloydde » Wed, May 16, 2018, 4:09 PM UTC

komali2 wrote: post #19

briffle wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your advocating for an abstinence only education, when it comes to football?

Or, to not have helmets at all, or much thinner helmets. Much like bare-knuckle or thin-padded gloves contribute to less "hard" hits being thrown in UFC than in boxing, or how Rugby players don't get the kind of brain injuries because they aren't smacking their heads into eachother as hard as football players are.

UFC: study that supports that assetion verses other factors like less money/rewards, shorter careers and full body contact? Different weight classes? Boxing vs Muay Thai? Yes, intuitively smaller gloves should contribute to less slow damage, but should also cause more acute and immediate injuries.

Re: NFL Releases Finite Element Helmet Models

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Post by poulsbohemian » Wed, May 16, 2018, 5:16 PM UTC

poulsbohemian wrote: post #73

vermontdevil wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rugby does not have a helmet (except for the padded ones) and yet they still have concussion issues. I think there’s no clear answer although I agree about removing face mask. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC155428/

I played organized American Football from the time I was a kid. Went to at the time the biggest high school in the state. I don't recall ever having any kind of head injuries despite getting hit a lot. Went out in college to try Rugby as a club sport. First practice, horrific concussion. I am a sample size of one, but I'd much rather my son play American Football than Rugby. If he gets to the college or pro level, th…

Oh you fine folks of HN crack me up. Speak from personal experience, get downvoted into oblivion.

Re: NFL Releases Finite Element Helmet Models

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Post by nkozyra » Thu, May 17, 2018, 1:27 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #95

matte_black wrote: post #10

Only thing safer helmets will do is encourage players to hit harder and harder, until someone really gets killed. I hope one day I will get to see the end of football. Why would any parent enroll their child in this sport?

> Why would any parent enroll their child in this sport? For the poor, it is a way out. Even if you don't hit the pro level, being good at football can get you a full ride scholarship to a great school. One of my friends at Berkeley was in exactly this situation. He grew up very very poor, played football at the local high school, and managed to get a football scholarship to Berkeley. He wasn't very good at football,…

> For the poor, it is a way out.

Which, frankly, makes the fact that you cannot enter the NFL at 18 even more egregious. It's a mutually beneficial scenario for the NCAA and the NFL at the expense of (often disadvantaged) people at or near the physical peak of their career.

Re: NFL Releases Finite Element Helmet Models

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Post by jessaustin » Thu, May 17, 2018, 5:49 PM UTC

bcohen5055 wrote: post #31

matte_black wrote: post #10

Only thing safer helmets will do is encourage players to hit harder and harder, until someone really gets killed. I hope one day I will get to see the end of football. Why would any parent enroll their child in this sport?

Yes, because seat belts and airbags only encourage people to drive faster and more reckless

Ask a cyclist about that. Risk compensation is real.