Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21 • Hacker News Board

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by jacksonnic » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:26 AM UTC

jrs95 wrote: post #109

adamtulinius wrote: post #56

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Why did you pick Swarm for production? We followed Swarm from the beginning, but after a few releases at v0.4 it was clear not to ever use Swarm, and that it mostly was the Docker PR machine that made it sound nice, and not the actual features. Maybe it got better later on, but the first several Swarm announcements seemed really off-putting to me. We ended up on Mesos/Marathon, not that that has a bright future eithe…

Is HashiCorp’s Nomad in a similar position at this point? I really enjoy it’s (relative) simplicity.

Nomad is very much alive and HashiCorp is committed to delivering a scheduler which concentrates on operational simplicity so teams can concentrate on building applications. It also gives the capability for running workloads other than Docker such as isolated fork for binaries, non containerised Java, etc. We have a great release with 0.8 and many features planned for the rest of the year.

Integrating Nomad with Vault and Consul is super easy and allows you to provide secrets, configuration and service discovery to the application with the right layer of abstraction, the application should not be aware of the scheduler it is running on. Cloud auto join allows super easy cluster config. Job files are declarative.

Yes, Nomad does not have all the features of Kubernetes, but we take a different approach believing in workflows and the unix phillosophy of a single tool for a single job. A fairer comaprison would be to comapare the HashiCorp suite of OSS tools to K8s, Nomad, Vault, Consul, Terraform, this gives you capabilities to manage your workload both legacy and modern.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by adityapatadia » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 8:52 AM UTC

gingerlime wrote: post #25

adityapatadia wrote: post #21

It was long known since they did not ship any new update since August 2016. We at Turing Analytics migrated to Rancher labs about 6 months ago. They should have announced it earlier and should have given more time to paying customers. I am glad I migrated very early.

Is there a hosted rancher service? I played around with it a long while ago and really liked it, but felt like more moving parts (and particularly on MySQL, which wasn't in our stack) wasn't something I was too keen on. Having someone manage this for us could be worth paying for though.

It does not have hosted service. What we did was to dedicate one VM to its management server and that worked out amazingly well. Everything is inside it and does not disturb other systems.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by adityapatadia » Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 8:54 AM UTC

pronik wrote: post #65

gingerlime wrote: post #25

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Is there a hosted rancher service? I played around with it a long while ago and really liked it, but felt like more moving parts (and particularly on MySQL, which wasn't in our stack) wasn't something I was too keen on. Having someone manage this for us could be worth paying for though.

Rancher, the container orchestration, is pretty much dead too, since it's K8s-based from (upcoming) 2.0 on, i.e. it's becoming a K8s distribution and has to compete with K8s itself, OpenShift and probably upcoming open-sourced edition of Tectonic. RancherOS might live on, even though there is a lot of doubt on why it should do so.

Rancher is far from dead. They are essentially making a nice frontend for k8s. All we care about is ease of deployment and management of containers. If that is being achieved by k8s, we don't have problem. And yes, they are managing 1.x version nicely with timely updates.

Plus it's a self hosted version so no such fear of it disappearing within 2 months. :)

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by dahidahi1 » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 1:33 AM UTC

pacala wrote: post #146

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What about HA / clustering, security mTLS?

Why would you want any of those on your laptop?

Because that is how I will deploy on production. At least the security pieces. Any difference & I am not sure if I can be assured of preventing the "works on my machine" kind of issues.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by BenfromOz » Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 1:55 PM UTC

Wow this is very surprising.

I've been working on a Docker Cloud alternative for awhile now. I'm aiming for something that kind of balances the convenience of Heroku with the Docker experience.

It's still in beta but if anyone wants to check it out it's at: https://codemason.io/