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Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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Green is the only guy who could take something as novel as zsnarks and latch it onto a trusted setup (you need it, but it should have been 50 Peter Todds) and optional privacy. He trolled Monero with this same kind of vehemence when he should be turning his critical eye on zcash--so let's not pretend he's an infallible god when he can't even get his own project right. Also, if you read the side convo between CFB and…

Lol this entire thread you've been defending Iota without facts. a) there's nothing broken in the Zcash cryptography. Some cryptographic assumptions used by SNARKs are a bit hairy and novel, but these assumptions, and variants there-of, haven't been broken in over 25 years of trying. b) State-of-the-art efficient SNARKs require trusted setup, but this can be distributed, as was done with Zcash and will be done, in a…

- Fungibility is broken when you have optional privacy--also stuff like this happens http://jeffq.com/blog/on-the-linkability-of-zcash-transactio...

-No one but the participants should trust a trusted setup, and even then, it's only if they can vouch for their OPSEC.

- B goes to my point that Green is inept as that should have been where they started.

- And they were cordial after they talked through the issues and Aumasson reliezed CFB's point (also, appeal to authority backfires when the authority agrees with the person you are criticizing).

Spend less time worrying about what I'm doing elsewhere and more on the argument in front of you. But it does seem fitting that you are supporting a dev who shows more concern for what others are doing than the product he helped drive into the ground.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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Interesting to see the range of opinions about IOTA. The conclusions on HN are (so far) completely at odds from those on the cryptocurrency subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7zztey/full... Meanwhile the commercial world seems happy to engage with IOTA: "Volkswagen CDO will join the supervisory board of the IOTA foundation. And now, Volkswagen is going to utilise this technology in their auto…

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Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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Maybe you should also read https://twitter.com/ShitcoinDotCom/status/965910847645212672 It is from the same author

Your point is what, exactly? Doing research into things, publishing results, and shorting is perfectly legitimate. It's how Lumber Liquidators was found to be using formaldehyde. Just because someone says something you don't like, and they have a short position in the thing, doesn't mean they are wrong.

He went out of his way to foul up (read the comment section for how obviously), not that that validates his assumption that ease-of-use = IOT suitability.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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Your point is what, exactly? Doing research into things, publishing results, and shorting is perfectly legitimate. It's how Lumber Liquidators was found to be using formaldehyde. Just because someone says something you don't like, and they have a short position in the thing, doesn't mean they are wrong.

He went out of his way to foul up (read the comment section for how obviously), not that that validates his assumption that ease-of-use = IOT suitability.

He most certainly did not. In fact, you already legislated this exact point with him and he explained exactly why he made the choices he made -- in your own comment history.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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Are you sober? hahahaha fuck me, this is good stuff.

Obviously Sergey isn't mean, but it's just unfortunate phrasing, because he is a non-native speaker, learning English from Java documentation, right? ;-) Neha's "I'm going to stop responding now." should have come much earlier.

This was from David not Sergey.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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eikons https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7zztey/full... IOTA: Can you look into our laundry detergent product and review it's safety? DCI: Sure. We've got some accomplished chemists that will do a careful review. IOTA: Cool, let us know what you find. DCI: Uh oh, it looks like we found a critical problem with your detergent. We tested the product and it seems to have poisonous properties. IOTA: How did…

Nice. Another account created just to attack this thread. They really do have an army of either trolls or heavily invested people (see link above)

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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He went out of his way to foul up (read the comment section for how obviously), not that that validates his assumption that ease-of-use = IOT suitability.

He most certainly did not. In fact, you already legislated this exact point with him and he explained exactly why he made the choices he made -- in your own comment history.

I did exactly what he tried to do. It took me less than 1 hour and my node was in sync. If you use a dedicated server with sufficient bandwidth and not your laptop at home for a fullnode this can easily been done. IOT devices are connected to this fullnode and are not fullnodes themselves. I dont know what made him think otherwise.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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That’s because other fields of computer science can either prove or demonstrate that their solution works. Cryptography almost never has solid proofs, and demonstrations prove nothing. When you’re working on something where “works great” and “completely broken” are almost indistinguishable, the only way to even have a hope of avoiding the second one is by having a lot of smart people bang on it for a long time.

What? Modern cryptography is based on proofs and definitions. Sure, we can't prove that SHA2 is cryptographically-strong (that imply P≠NP), but we can show that it resists certain kinds of attacks. Furthermore, assuming certain properties are satisfied by SHA2, we can order that different constructions based on it (eg a Merkle tree) are secure. Cryptography is highly mathematical.

>Sure, we can't prove that SHA2 is cryptographically-strong (that imply P≠NP), but we can show that it resists certain kinds of attacks.

Under very carefully chosen assumptions, which may or may not be true (hello Random Oracle). But this is a very flimsy sort of proof.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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Did you also invest in Juicero? How about Magic Leap? Enron? Being in the green just means you’ve convinced a critical mass of greedy, ignorant people that you’re a winner.

What's wrong with Magic Leap? Just curious, I've never heard anything negative.

Sorry about the slow reply, it’s a very reasonable question you’re asking.

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