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Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

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These are common misconceptions from speculators. 1. Crypto-assets like Bitcoin/Ethereum/Steller/Ripple, etc, are created simply by typing some numbers into a piece of software. There's no underlying value, it's a number in a database. 2. Stocks have measurable value, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price%E2%80%93earnings_ratio 3. Anytime someone sells a Bitcoin or whatevercoin it requires a buyer. Similar to baseball…

How long do you think Amazon's stock price would stay high if no new investors could be found? Don't dig too deep into what separates stocks and government issued fiat currency from pyramid schemes or what you find will trouble you. In many ways, crypto is the safer of the two. A finite amount of bitcoin will be created, can you say the same for the US dollar? My view is that everything is a pyramid scheme from the f…

  The difference is crypto is a chance to get in at the top 
  for once.
Not if you buy other cryptocoins like Bitcoin or Ethereum that someone else created for nothing to sell to bagholders. All you're doing there is becoming a late adopter and you must pray you're not too late in the pyramid that you'll be able to sell to some other speculator at a price higher than you bought meanwhile you're at a 1000x-10,000x disadvantage to anyone who acquired the coin for pennies/fractions of the cost to you. Simple game theory.

Anyone who wants to just needs to create their own crypto-asset and market it like the others to convince "speculators" it's worth purchasing.

Notice how bitcoin/cryptocoin advocates tell others to "HODL" - psychological manipulation is needed to maintain the artificial market scarcity as there's no real demand, use, or acceptance from retailers. [1]

If you're genuinely concerned about control of the money supply, you would voice concern about how cryptocoins are majority owned by only a few hundred people [2] and because of how tether [3] has been marketed and used on exchanges it's essentially like the federal reserve of cryptocurrencies except it's just 2 guys and it's alleged to be backed by nothing which could mean they're stealing large amounts of cryptocoins. Given all the theft in the cryptocoin system, one might wonder if regulations and security standards exist for a reason. What happens if thieves become the majority wealth holders of all the cryptocoins?

[1] https://stripe.com/blog/ending-bitcoin-support

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail...

[2] http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-inequality-2014-1

[3] https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

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I agree that this is problematic, but aren't companies valued the same way? I.e. num_shares x share_price? Similar issues apply there.

except amazon stock represents ownership of a corporation with assets that have value.

Traditional crypto mining burns real energy that costs real money and has a real carbon footprint, and the owners of the rigs have real pride that create a floor of how much Bitcoin will be worth, so long as it's technically sound.

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#153

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I agree that this is problematic, but aren't companies valued the same way? I.e. num_shares x share_price? Similar issues apply there.

except amazon stock represents ownership of a corporation with assets that have value.

You'd think so, but not really.

Amazon's balance sheet [0] shows assets minus liabilities of $19 billion. So the "assets" that shareholders "own" are less than 3% of the company's $690 billion market cap.

Not to mention that shareholders don't "own" those assets in any real, tangible sense.

If you look around at any form of wealth, from the balance in your checking account to stocks, bonds and even the title on real property, it's all invisible, intangible and socially constructed.

Not as different from cryptocurrency as one would like to think.

[0] https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/000101872417...

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

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post #122

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Thank you for this comment. I checked my email, found out I had 40K, and cashed out half. We live in strange times.

Congrats! Curious why you got 40k though? I thought everyone received 6k.

I wish I knew! I signed up pretty early.
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