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Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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post #67

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Store the screen layout using serials from the EDIDs. Why it doesn’t do this and “tries” to guess their position somehow is beyond me. I use the OWC TB3 dock with dual Asus PA328qs with the latest firmware. Because of apparently some lame design decisions, in order to run dual external monitors over a single TB3 port, you need the dock, which has one DisplayPort output, then a TB3-> DisplayPort (via USB-C alt mode II…

> Store the screen layout using serials from the EDIDs What does this mean/how do you do it?

OP is suggesting Apple should have stored the layout based on the EDID serials.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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post #89

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They do do that. It fails because the monitors have identical EDIDs. Peripheral vendors are less competent than you think.

Perhaps someone can make an adapter that can sit between the computer and monitor to fix EDID issues?

It has been done for the T221. It's quite a hack, expensive and error prone.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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This is why we can’t have nice things--random reports of things not working are pretty meaningless without context. Yes, it’s fodder to continue to dump on Apple—I get that. But it certainly doesn’t help solve the issue, assuming there’s really an issue in the first place. For the record, I’ve installed htop many dozens of times using Homebrew on a variety of Mac hardware and operating systems over the years and have…

Turns out there’s some kind of build issue with htop; the Homebrew formula has been modified to not install on High Sierra. Here’s what I got when attempting to upgrade; for the record, htop still works fine for me: ==> Upgrading 1 outdated package, with result: htop 2.0.2_1 htop: This formula either does not compile or function as expected on macOS versions newer than Sierra due to an upstream incompatibility. Error…

You can silence the error by running "brew pin htop". Remember to "brew unpin htop" when/if the bug is finally fixed.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

#154
post #86

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This is why we can’t have nice things--random reports of things not working are pretty meaningless without context. Yes, it’s fodder to continue to dump on Apple—I get that. But it certainly doesn’t help solve the issue, assuming there’s really an issue in the first place. For the record, I’ve installed htop many dozens of times using Homebrew on a variety of Mac hardware and operating systems over the years and have…

> This is why we can’t have nice things--random reports of things not working are pretty meaningless without context No they are not. A lot of the same reports with same combination of htop + iTerm should prompt the company to investigate. At least when they are selling $2k "premium" machines. > I’ve installed htop many dozens of times using Homebrew on a variety of Mac hardware Neither did I except since I upgraded…

No they are not. A lot of the same reports with same combination of htop + iTerm should prompt the company to investigate.

You don’t know whether or not they’ve investigated this issue or not.

There’s a decent chance they have, which might explain why I haven’t had this problem because I’m running a beta of 10.13.3 and nobody else on the GitHub thread is as far as I can see.

I also haven’t seen evidence of bug reports to Apple; that might’ve helped: https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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post #86

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> This is why we can’t have nice things--random reports of things not working are pretty meaningless without context No they are not. A lot of the same reports with same combination of htop + iTerm should prompt the company to investigate. At least when they are selling $2k "premium" machines. > I’ve installed htop many dozens of times using Homebrew on a variety of Mac hardware Neither did I except since I upgraded…

No they are not. A lot of the same reports with same combination of htop + iTerm should prompt the company to investigate. You don’t know whether or not they’ve investigated this issue or not. There’s a decent chance they have, which might explain why I haven’t had this problem because I’m running a beta of 10.13.3 and nobody else on the GitHub thread is as far as I can see. I also haven’t seen evidence of bug report…

> You don’t know whether or not they’ve investigated this issue or not.

True, because the company we're discussing isn't exactly the champion of communication when it comes to things like that. A simple reply from an Apple developer that it is being looked into, that it got linked to an internal KB, would've been suffice.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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This is why we can’t have nice things--random reports of things not working are pretty meaningless without context. Yes, it’s fodder to continue to dump on Apple—I get that. But it certainly doesn’t help solve the issue, assuming there’s really an issue in the first place. For the record, I’ve installed htop many dozens of times using Homebrew on a variety of Mac hardware and operating systems over the years and have…

Turns out there’s some kind of build issue with htop; the Homebrew formula has been modified to not install on High Sierra. Here’s what I got when attempting to upgrade; for the record, htop still works fine for me: ==> Upgrading 1 outdated package, with result: htop 2.0.2_1 htop: This formula either does not compile or function as expected on macOS versions newer than Sierra due to an upstream incompatibility. Error…

Yeah, that's done as a result of this linked bug report. Its mentioned in the bug report somewhere at the bottom.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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Store the screen layout using serials from the EDIDs. Why it doesn’t do this and “tries” to guess their position somehow is beyond me. I use the OWC TB3 dock with dual Asus PA328qs with the latest firmware. Because of apparently some lame design decisions, in order to run dual external monitors over a single TB3 port, you need the dock, which has one DisplayPort output, then a TB3-> DisplayPort (via USB-C alt mode II…

I hit a breaking point with the Apple laptops a couple of years ago. It was actually iTunes that drove me off. iTunes Match somehow corrupted and lost a bunch of my music. Forever gone and I didn't have backups. After working with Support for a while, I finally gave up and bought a new ThinkPad T470s and put Arch Linux on it and never looked back. Things work really well and predictably. I have it dialed in just how…

Was it hard to move off Retina and reasonable touchpad? I am considering similar route, but these are the two things that keep me on Apple.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

#160
post #121

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> I didn't have backups.

That's like asking someone with Dropbox storage to make sure they have a secondary backup on an external HDD somewhere. It's not that it wouldn't be a good practice, it's that Dropbox should be the one making the backups of their backups.

And you should be following the 3-2-1 rule for backups.

3 copies of the data, 2 locally on different media, 1 offsite.

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